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Quarterback Injuries Have Decimated BYU Football
dchandle15
10/7/19 11:22pm
Good article and insight
2FarGone
10/7/19 11:34pm
At what point do we say "this isn't just bad luck, we need to change something?"
Beans
10/7/19 11:44pm
Hard to say what to change. We’ve had four OCs running five different systems
dchandle15
10/8/19 12:02am
Yep, poor o-line play has been the denominator with S&C playing a minor role.
Beans
10/8/19 12:05am
QBs "running for their lives": Would have to agree w/ this. Videos prove it.
BleedCougarBlue2
10/8/19 8:51am
Know what I remember about 2006-2009? QBs that rarely left the pocket who were
crack
10/7/19 11:54pm
Running QB's get injured. Even mangum's injury was because he ran.
Beans
10/7/19 11:59pm
What injury did Mangum have? We've had so many I can't remember. ACL?
BleedCougarBlue2
10/8/19 8:52am
torn achilles tendon
cwilke1
10/8/19 11:32am
Thx. I think as a person he is phenomenal. As a QB his Sr year I think he....
BleedCougarBlue2
10/8/19 3:56pm
I think it’s also when they ran, rather than if they ran
dchandle15
10/8/19 12:14am
For as many games as Max played, 200 yds is superb. Meaning, 200 yds is low...
BleedCougarBlue2
10/8/19 8:54am
Agreed! 200 rushing yards in a season is an ideal number!
dchandle15
10/8/19 9:06am
Umm, I remember Max Hall running and never, ever sliding, even taking some big
mwcoug
10/8/19 4:16am
I also remember him getting smashed from the blindside at least once per game.
Hambone
10/8/19 6:13am
And somehow he survived all of that whereas other QBs didn't
mwcoug
10/8/19 6:38am
Just barely.
kudzucoug
10/8/19 7:55am
He kinda survived. He had a stage 3 shoulder separation at one point.
Bovine University
10/8/19 11:18am
As opposed to Taysom getting hit multiple times per game.
Brigham
10/8/19 6:39am
I've been saying this for years. If QBs stayed healthy Bronco is probably
Y05
10/8/19 3:43am
That is so wrong. Tanner and Taysom were not D1 quarterbacks.
Backcountry
10/8/19 6:25am
They literally were D1 quarterbacks.
ataylor
10/8/19 7:12am
Taysom is a LB or Safety. Tanner would have struggled to play at most FCS school
Backcountry
10/8/19 7:13am
Taysom Hill is an NFL quarterback. Tanner Mangum was an elite recruit whose
ataylor
10/8/19 7:20am
Did you just say that Taysom Hill is an NFL QB? With a straight face?
Backcountry
10/8/19 7:28am
I did. He is literally an NFL quarterback.
ataylor
10/8/19 7:31am
And Charlie Weis is a D1 head coach
Backcountry
10/8/19 7:41am
Not at the moment — hasn’t coached for 4–5 years
ataylor
10/8/19 7:43am
Sean Payton seems to disagree with you, and he's a pretty good judge I'd say
BYUfan92
10/8/19 4:16pm
2014 Taysom had us 4-0 and I believe wouldve led a comeback over USU
Jimmerfan32
10/8/19 7:27am
The 2 teams were just trading TD's at the point he got injured
stansburycoug
10/8/19 11:32am
RE: The 2 teams were just trading TD's at the point he got injured
Backcountry
10/8/19 11:41am
RE: Taysom is a LB or Safety. Tanner would have struggled to play at most FCS school
TheLoneCougar
10/8/19 8:12am
Yet, as a true frosh fresh off a mission Bronco/Anae were able to win 9 games
Y05
10/8/19 8:47am
You're kidding, right? I mean I shake my head at your comment. I'm not....
BleedCougarBlue2
10/8/19 8:58am
2014, 2015 and 2016 say otherwise for Taysom. His results were excellent.
Turnpike Lane
10/8/19 10:34am
Taysom is good enough to play qb in the NFL but not good enough for college?
Bovine University
10/8/19 11:20am
Taysom is nowhere near good enough to play QB in the NFL
Backcountry
10/8/19 11:29am
Do you watch the NFL? I mean, he's literally played qb in the NFL...
Bovine University
10/8/19 12:41pm
Come on Backcountry. Taysom Hill not a D1 QB? How can you state this just 1 week
cougaman
10/8/19 11:58am
Worst post of the year. Or funniest.
RalphWiggam
10/9/19 12:39am
Change that to *if Bronco recruited a half decent OL*
HONOMO
10/8/19 11:50am
Personally, I think the William's injury is bigger than the Wilson.
whiteninja
10/8/19 4:58am
Maybe the issue is the type of offense. Anae 1.0 protected the quarterback.
Brigham
10/8/19 6:15am
Anae 1.0 is the perfect O for BYU
Backcountry
10/8/19 6:25am
It allowed a double high ankle sprained John neck to throw for over 3,000 yards
1984coug
10/8/19 6:58am
I disagree with multiple points
Backcountry
10/8/19 6:20am
Could it be that our offense hasn’t called for that?
Brigham
10/8/19 6:30am
Christian Stewart was the best QB of the last decade.
Backcountry
10/8/19 6:42am
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Brigham
10/8/19 6:49am
Maybe.
Shore10
10/8/19 7:42am
Care to elaborate?
D.T. Survivor
10/8/19 8:42am
Sure.
Backcountry
10/8/19 8:46am
It's arguable. He played against really weak competition and only for one season
D.T. Survivor
10/8/19 8:56am
Gee, thanks for all the overwhelming evidence. Gotta do better than that.
BleedCougarBlue2
10/8/19 9:08am
Who do you think I am? Indycoug?
Backcountry
10/8/19 9:15am
I think ZW throwing aggressively will be good for the program
puntersarepeople
10/8/19 4:17pm
What about the Conover kid on a mission right now? Is he NFL type QB?
Y05
10/8/19 8:46pm
“BYU hasnt recruited anything even approaching an NFL quarterback in 15 years.”
ataylor
10/8/19 7:59am
I see a former BYU player that primarily plays special teams, and occasionally
Backcountry
10/8/19 8:04am
Then you’re not seeing correctly. He primarily plays quarterback and that’s
ataylor
10/8/19 8:08am
He is a freak athlete. It's why he is in the league. Not because he is a QB.
Backcountry
10/8/19 8:09am
Those two things are not mutually exclusive. The fact is that he’s an athletic
ataylor
10/8/19 8:17am
How many games has he started at QB?
Backcountry
10/8/19 8:18am
I don’t think he’s started any games. Careful — those goalposts you’re about to
ataylor
10/8/19 8:22am
Umm being a backup to Drew Brees and Aaron Rodgers kind of makes that difficult
D.T. Survivor
10/8/19 8:43am
Teddy Bridgewater?
Backcountry
10/8/19 8:47am
The Saints must be very stupid
stansburycoug
10/8/19 9:52am
Isn't Bridgewater also a former pro-bowler and highest paid backup QB in the NFL
SMITTY
10/8/19 1:44pm
That’s nothing, the broncos decided not to carry any nfl QBs this season, again
USMCdad
10/8/19 1:57pm
Who needs a good QB anyway? That’s the Ute’s MO.
D.T. Survivor
10/8/19 4:15pm
So last year before Flacco got hurt Lamar Jackson was not a QB because he was
Broda
10/8/19 8:56am
Argument over. Boooom!
ThorLebowski
10/8/19 8:21pm
Quick fact check
Mr Bassman
10/8/19 7:05am
You’re correct about 2016, Hill did start that 12th game. My mistake. Thanks!
dchandle15
10/8/19 7:55am
Just glad to help 😃
Mr Bassman
10/8/19 9:28am
Stark. Blunt. Brutally honest. Big sigh of sadness. Ugh....
BleedCougarBlue2
10/8/19 8:45am
Didn't watch the last game. Zach got hurt making a tackle after a pick?
BleedCougarBlue2
10/8/19 8:49am
It's been a mix between that and coaching in my opinion...
Coug
10/8/19 9:01am
Completely agree. Coaching will always play a part in performance.
dchandle15
10/8/19 9:17am
The problem is Zach injured his hand making a tackle after the interception
pappabear246
10/8/19 9:20am
And, in the long run, we would have been better off.
Brigham
10/8/19 10:56am
BYU is 2-3 this season with a healthy QB
run26
10/8/19 2:14pm
BYU was 2-2 with a QB coming off an injury. Zach did not look the same.
dchandle15
10/8/19 2:44pm
Now apply that same logic to what Ty did with a 70%THill who o ly had
CarolinaCoug
10/8/19 3:14pm
Nice try but
run26
10/8/19 6:37pm
Great point. My contention: He was never back to 100% healthy.
dchandle15
10/9/19 12:51am
You might be right
run26
10/9/19 8:09am
But is the fact that the game was close on Zach or the coaches or other
pappabear246
10/9/19 10:02am
Had they just allowed him to score we would have had more time on the
pappabear246
10/9/19 10:00am
Maybe Jake Heaps is the wiser QB then? Look what it cost us, and him.
BleedCougarBlue2
10/8/19 3:58pm
Were those teams good because the QB was healthy or was the QB healthy because
Pablo Bot
10/8/19 1:50pm
Which blog?
MikeDitka'sStache
10/8/19 2:55pm
Currently going through a re-vamp with it, along with a new domain
dchandle15
10/8/19 3:14pm
FWIW, your article was excellent. Very good analysis.
BleedCougarBlue2
10/8/19 3:59pm
Yep....and fire Detmer while we're at it!
Borg
10/8/19 4:09pm
The more I watch Brady, or Brees, the more I think they have identified that
BYUfan92
10/8/19 4:21pm
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