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Sep 19, 2019
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fattycoug
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You don't throw into crazy coverage just because a receiver is good. They can't
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Anyone a little perplexed on very little passes to Bushman the last two games?
idacoug
9/19/19 8:15am
He has been double teamed almost every play
Cougz19
9/19/19 8:16am
That’s why having MLP back is huge.
Niiineteeen84
9/19/19 8:35am
That's what happens when defenses key on him all game. Opens up everyone else
rggee
9/19/19 8:17am
On that big play against TN, there were 4-5 guys paying attention to Bushman..
Fdnman
9/19/19 8:17am
That is my point. If he is that good, you still throw to him.
idacoug
9/19/19 8:19am
I don't think you throw to him unless he's open. If he's getting double or triple-teamed, somebody else is open.
jdub
9/19/19 8:21am
did teams double team Collie, Kozlowski, etc? They still got the rock because
idacoug
9/19/19 8:29am
What part of "other people are open" are you missing here? Why try to force a play that has less of a chance of
jdub
9/19/19 8:32am
Nothing. I totally agree with it.
idacoug
9/19/19 8:35am
Sure about that?
Cougar TD
9/19/19 8:43am
UNITE MIGHTY ARM CHAIR COACHES
Hammer15
9/19/19 10:22am
If you have Collie AND Pitta, opposing team can't double-team them both.
frontrowcougar
9/19/19 10:46am
Somehow Pitta, Harline, and other great tight ends got their numbers, even
HenderCoug
9/19/19 9:44am
2008 was Pitta's best year. Who else was on that team on offense????
jdub
9/19/19 10:04am
I believe there were about 10 others, at any given time.
HenderCoug
9/19/19 10:07am
When your argument starts to look silly, go for snark.
jdub
9/19/19 10:08am
I didn't make an argument. I made an observation. The observation is true.
HenderCoug
9/19/19 10:18am
Your observation wasn't pointed? Give me a break. And, your observation neglected to mention key details
jdub
9/19/19 10:25am
You need a hug. I'm not trying to pick any fights. I just think it odd that
HenderCoug
9/19/19 12:10pm
Please identify the insults I used. Refuting your arguments (yes, arguments) is not an insult.
jdub
9/19/19 12:15pm
And, of the two of us, you are the only one who resorted to snark. You did it here again, with the "hug" comment.
jdub
9/19/19 12:16pm
That's the philosophy of the USC coach that cost him the game
BYUMizzou
9/19/19 8:23am
totally disagree. Maybe tennessee, but not USC.
idacoug
9/19/19 8:25am
Not USC what?
YIsForBrigham
9/19/19 8:31am
We didn't beat USC solely because they double teamed bushman all game.
idacoug
9/19/19 8:31am
Nowhere did he state we beat SC because they doubled Bushman.
fldnstrm
9/19/19 8:33am
really? He said it cost USC the game.
idacoug
9/19/19 8:36am
No he didn’t
YIsForBrigham
9/19/19 8:37am
Wow. I said the USC coach not using and leveraging an
BYUMizzou
9/19/19 8:40am
He's saying that throwing into coverage was why USC threw 3 picks
fattycoug
9/19/19 8:36am
got it.
idacoug
9/19/19 8:40am
You alright today? You seem slower than normal.
rggee
9/19/19 8:58am
It's completely true about USC. If you take the lost yardage from sacks out
BYUMizzou
9/19/19 8:35am
2 ints were early and the last one was on 3rd and medium
Cougforgood
9/19/19 8:53am
In the first half. In the second half USC went to the run quite a bit, but the difference was either the DL made a
Bert609
9/19/19 12:27pm
vs Utah, we stopped moss up until the last drive of the 1st half
Cougforgood
9/19/19 3:49pm
RE: That is my point. If he is that good, you still throw to him.
Mathew
9/19/19 8:24am
RE: That is my point. If he is that good, you still throw to him.
HuskerFan2
9/19/19 8:25am
Is that the attitude that Idaho football coaches took? That explains why they arent very good
monkeycowboy
9/19/19 8:28am
if you are a good enough receiver and your QB can get you the ball
idacoug
9/19/19 8:30am
*If you’re open
YIsForBrigham
9/19/19 8:31am
Milne wasn't open and Wilson got the ball to him for a td.
idacoug
9/19/19 8:33am
Umm.... he had separation when the ball came out. The DB closed after the ball was released.
Indy Coug
9/19/19 8:35am
The db defended that as well as anyone possibly could.
idacoug
9/19/19 8:38am
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Cougazul
9/19/19 8:41am
Yep. Perfect throw and perfect catch
Indy Coug
9/19/19 8:41am
And he didn't have bracketed coverage over the top.
sidsie716
9/19/19 8:44am
Interesting, because I would think the best someone could have defended it would
fldnstrm
9/19/19 9:08am
Oh yeah?! How about a pick 6?! I win!!!
mvtoro
9/19/19 9:17am
Milne was single covered, and was open initially just slightly. The defender made a good play, and almost got it.
jdub
9/19/19 8:37am
One-on-one
rggee
9/19/19 9:00am
Were you dropped on your head as a kid? Why is this concept so hard for you?
GigantorCat
9/19/19 8:45am
Seriously, you should let this one go. When you find yourself in a hole, stop
BYU I Bleed Blue
9/19/19 12:19pm
So you are saying even if Bushman is double or triple teamed,
Emmett Fitz-Hume
9/19/19 12:39pm
You don't throw into crazy coverage just because a receiver is good. They can't
fattycoug
9/19/19 8:31am
Lol. Good stuff coach!
Mr Bassman
9/19/19 8:48am
Thank goodness your not the coach
Adrielle
9/19/19 9:28am
You made the opposite point. If guys are keying on him that much
LifeLongLakerFan
9/19/19 10:00am
I don’t think Bushman is THAT good.
LoyaltotheRoyal
9/19/19 10:50am
If he is double and triple-covered you don't throw to him. That is why you
BYU I Bleed Blue
9/19/19 12:15pm
It's a bad point. Simon got the last catch because Bushman drew attention.
ochobeeguy
9/19/19 12:31pm
Hey, let me know if you want to face off in Madden.
russkiejedi
9/19/19 9:23pm
No. Zach is taking what the defense gives him.
monkeycowboy
9/19/19 8:18am
It’s been incredibly encouraging to see how ZW has responded. He’s very comfortable throwing it to the open guy
YIsForBrigham
9/19/19 8:29am
Did he really have 7 plays of 18+? Didn't Mangum go most of a season without
stoils
9/19/19 8:32am
Yes. A couple of those were running plays though. I'm referring to the entire offense here.
YIsForBrigham
9/19/19 8:34am
18 is a weird cut off. 20 is better
Mr Bassman
9/19/19 8:57am
Zach has 10 completions of 18 or more yards in 2019
Mr Bassman
9/19/19 8:59am
How many did he have in 2017, since you have the numbers available to you
stoils
9/19/19 9:09am
18 in 2017
Mr Bassman
9/19/19 9:21am
Great data — thanks for collecting, analyzing and sharing!
ColoSpgs
9/19/19 9:49am
No problem! Always glad to provide some stats
Mr Bassman
9/19/19 12:40pm
Maybe it was 25+ yards
stoils
9/19/19 9:54am
Here are 25+ yard passes since 2005
Mr Bassman
9/19/19 10:13am
It was 30+ yards and it was only the 1st 3 games or so before he got 1.
rggee
9/19/19 10:38am
You got him on your fantasy team or something?
AD4
9/19/19 8:34am
Ive never played fantasy football ever.
idacoug
9/19/19 8:37am
Yeah if you watch the games again, he's literally being doubled on every play.
macdizzle
9/19/19 8:45am
And because USC got burned doing that, guess what Washington is going to do.
Throwaway59840
9/19/19 10:07am
Nope. He has been well covered leaving others more open.
BYUtka
9/19/19 9:02am
I still think there are opportunities to get him the ball though. One target per
BlueForLife
9/19/19 10:15am
Hans talked about it a lot yesterday but i think it's been covered in the thread
yahtzee
9/19/19 10:47am
Double teamed, but opening up things for our WR's and backs so its not a bad
Tuskaloosa Cougar
9/19/19 10:49am
It's simple. He's getting bracketed on most every play. The end.
RockyBalboa
9/19/19 10:59am
But he asked if anyone is perplexed why. The answer is no.
ochobeeguy
9/19/19 1:02pm
If the BYU Offense was killing them everywhere else
Reedme
9/19/19 11:38am
They have been weapons. They drew away the defense opening up the receivers.
Coug Man in Florida
9/19/19 12:02pm
I'm all about mixing it up. Spread it out. Will get him more touches in the end.
Heath Squashwell
9/19/19 12:07pm
Things will open up for him more as teams are realizing that they can't bracket him like other teams have because that
cheezedawg
9/19/19 12:10pm
I would be concerned if Bushman wasn't being bracketed on nearly every play, and
Emmett Fitz-Hume
9/19/19 12:44pm
Teams should start loosening up on him the more our other receivers make big plays. He's still our best target.
Bluedarts
9/19/19 1:58pm
Nope. He's not physical enough to fight through contact when doubled.
jsjohnson1278
9/19/19 3:03pm
Yeah, I was wondering why he and Zach where only a foot apart on those
Taullis
9/19/19 5:54pm
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