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Sep 6, 2019
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ironman1315
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No. The abusive husband to wife scenario is nowhere close to the civil war.
Not even sort of. And I’m with you on the more nuanced thinking. But dude that analogy is way off base.
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Here are the portraits of Abraham Lincoln in 1860 and 1865. He aged a lot in 5 years.
Cougar-Duck
Mexico will pay for it.
9/6/19 4:53pm
I wonder why?
CougarThug
9/6/19 4:56pm
Green tea
Cougar-Duck
9/6/19 4:57pm
He looks like Jane Lynch in the left one.
Fifth-Fret
9/6/19 4:57pm
Worst President ever.
Brutus216
9/6/19 4:58pm
You're one of THOSE people?
reagan21
9/6/19 5:03pm
Literate? Yep, guilty.
Brutus216
9/6/19 5:10pm
Care to expound?
Adwight
9/6/19 5:12pm
Lots of reasons. In short, he trampled on the Constitution.
Brutus216
9/6/19 5:15pm
Please share your top 3 presidents. Curious
CLCougar
9/6/19 5:18pm
1. Washington 2. Coolidge 3. Jefferson
Brutus216
9/6/19 5:22pm
Trump, Nixon, Trump Jr. (2024—2032)
Conan
9/6/19 5:43pm
You are going to have to get far more specific.
8-track
9/6/19 5:19pm
RE: You are going to have to get far more specific.
Brutus216
9/6/19 5:26pm
Let me clarify:
8-track
9/6/19 5:43pm
Literate won't get you far if you're reading hyperbolic editorials mingled with
reagan21
9/6/19 5:40pm
Interesting, he is widely considered the Best President Ever
2FarGone
9/6/19 5:04pm
Maybe in modern society, but at the time he was hated in the south
Jericho
9/6/19 5:14pm
You have to take all of his statements in context.
8-track
9/6/19 5:17pm
I do, but people who often suggest he is one of the greatest presidents
Jericho
9/6/19 5:20pm
I have a pretty good understanding of his life.
8-track
9/6/19 5:24pm
I think he second only to George Washington
2FarGone
9/6/19 5:41pm
Washington, Coolidge, Monroe are my top 3
Jericho
9/6/19 5:42pm
Let me guess... “..states rights...”
vegasnative
9/6/19 5:09pm
The United States Constitution.
Brutus216
9/6/19 5:14pm
Let's hear what enumerated provisions he violated. Let me guess....right of
reagan21
9/6/19 5:19pm
Arresting newspaper editors who spoke out against the upcoming war...
HighHorse
9/6/19 5:25pm
and that makes him the worst ever? Please. George W. Bush did MUCH worse and
reagan21
9/6/19 5:31pm
Oh my goodness, W did not do worse than Lincoln. Wow.
Brutus216
9/6/19 5:38pm
W was horrible, but Abe did more long term damage to the Constitution.
HighHorse
9/6/19 8:23pm
In the end, let me make this simple:
8-track
9/6/19 9:12pm
Good questions and here's my answer:
HighHorse
9/6/19 10:15pm
Wait, who fired the first shots of the war and left the country because
ironman1315
9/6/19 10:19pm
This debate has put me in a mood. So let's examine if the south had any right...
ironman1315
9/6/19 10:37pm
That wasn't the "prevailing legal thinking".
HighHorse
9/6/19 10:44pm
I'm sorry, it is that simple
8-track
9/6/19 11:00pm
Okay, tell me, what legal theory was the US operating under at the time
ironman1315
9/6/19 11:03pm
I don't even know what to say. Honestly.
8-track
9/6/19 10:44pm
Haha, GWB sucked... Can't they both suck?
Jericho
9/6/19 5:50pm
So he should have let the country die
8-track
9/6/19 5:23pm
That’s like saying an abusive husband
Brutus216
9/6/19 5:29pm
Um, no, that's not at all similar. But let's just pretend that it is.
8-track
9/6/19 5:38pm
Hate to break it to you, brother. I’m not
Brutus216
9/6/19 5:41pm
I've read plenty and if slavery didn't exist in the south there would have been
8-track
9/6/19 5:45pm
Incorrect.
Brutus216
9/6/19 5:49pm
This is an easy game. I can play too: “correct”
8-track
9/6/19 5:58pm
Um, yes it is similar, actually
foosman
9/6/19 6:11pm
No. The abusive husband to wife scenario is nowhere close to the civil war.
ironman1315
9/6/19 6:20pm
RE: No. The abusive husband to wife scenario is nowhere close to the civil war.
foosman
9/6/19 6:30pm
2 parties? It wasn't the north and the south that formed the US. It was states..
trom2foot3
9/6/19 6:49pm
Or, Two large, parties enter voluntarily into a union...
So it goes...
9/6/19 7:09pm
This is much much more accurate.
ironman1315
9/6/19 10:09pm
RE: 2 parties? It wasn't the north and the south that formed the US. It was
foosman
9/6/19 7:17pm
Body vs. Marriage - the analogy isn't all that important. Both are flawed
8-track
9/6/19 7:38pm
A couple of points:
8-track
9/6/19 7:11pm
RE: A couple of points:
foosman
9/6/19 7:34pm
Valid point, let me explain
8-track
9/6/19 7:45pm
Well, I mean, for one, states aren't people
ironman1315
9/6/19 10:07pm
Why does it seem like guys like this bought in to some argument
Superman21
9/6/19 5:42pm
Oh boy.
Brutus216
9/6/19 5:43pm
I’m sorry do you need my answer in meme form?
Superman21
9/6/19 5:56pm
They are just contrarians. Being anti Lincoln is so nonsensical that they get
vegasnative
9/7/19 12:20am
If anything the south was the abusive spouse. From the beginning of the union
vegasnative
9/7/19 12:41am
Just ignore the big picture - got it.
BlueSioux
9/6/19 5:21pm
Andrew Jackson, Andrew Johnson and James Buchanan are relieved to hear that.
reagan21
9/6/19 5:27pm
I'm a Virginian and I can't fathom that opinion. Not in 2019.
JmThms
9/6/19 5:37pm
That doesn’t surprise me. Especially in 2019.
Brutus216
9/6/19 5:46pm
My take on Abe
TrackCoug
9/6/19 5:38pm
Yeah, that’s wrong.
Brutus216
9/6/19 5:42pm
No it isn’t
TrackCoug
9/6/19 5:45pm
RE: Worst President ever.
ironman1315
9/6/19 5:55pm
I like this one
More of a Jazz Fan
9/6/19 5:01pm
One of the most interesting stories about Lincoln
Jericho
9/6/19 5:02pm
Gross.
JmThms
9/6/19 11:58pm
This is Ralph Lincoln, an 11th generation cousin of Abe...
So it goes...
9/6/19 5:05pm
Photoshop
DodgerMike
9/6/19 5:09pm
Lighting
Pony Zale
9/6/19 5:16pm
Once after being called "two-faced," he quipped, “If I had two faces, why would
Kauai
9/6/19 5:22pm
Shouldn’t have invaded the South. #OilofOlayof1861
Supercoug
9/6/19 5:55pm
To those with whom I have been snarky, we
Brutus216
9/6/19 5:58pm
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