Same could be said of Max Hall. And you're comparing apples and mangoes -

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Aug 21, 2019
1:41:55pm

oxcoug All-American

Same could be said of Max Hall. And you're comparing apples and mangoes -

Taysom played his two games against Utah (not much of a sample) behind ramshackle OLs patched together with duct tape. The 2013 OL and the 2016 OL at the outset were disastrously bad.

Meanwhile, Zach played his behind the most talented OL group BYU has had since about 96 after they'd had a full year of experience under their belts.

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POLL: Who is the better QB as of RIGHT NOW? Hill or Wilson?

Indy Coug Loquacious Lummox

8/21/19 12:38pm

LOL at anyone saying Zach

Coop

8/21/19 12:39pm

Ask me next Friday

Denile

8/21/19 12:42pm

Taysom was real bad versus Utah every time. Not a high bar to clear.

SandYFan

8/21/19 12:44pm

I remember him being pretty good in '16. But yes he did have that bad last play

DieHarder

8/21/19 12:47pm

Let's check the stat line.

SandYFan

8/21/19 12:50pm

Yeah I edited my post after I checked espn's box. You were right. I was remembering some great runs

DieHarder

8/21/19 12:52pm

RIGHT NOW. Hill's had 3 years of NFL tutelage plus an extended bout of good health.

Indy Coug

8/21/19 12:51pm

and it's not close.

Belboz

8/21/19 1:04pm

Yep. The NFL coaches are not stupid. He would not be

CougaRR4L

8/21/19 1:07pm

You're making some assumptions.

SandYFan

8/21/19 1:08pm

Um. Yes that is what we are all doing because Taysom will never be

CougaRR4L

8/21/19 1:17pm

Yes. I'm also saying until he does it IN A REAL NFL GAME I am unconvinced.

SandYFan

8/21/19 1:20pm

Fair enough. I feel that way about Wilson though. He is

CougaRR4L

8/21/19 1:33pm

or we could assume that NFL training has no impact.

Belboz

8/21/19 1:30pm

Neato he's had a few good moments in preseason games.

SandYFan

8/21/19 1:07pm

OK so what has Wilson done so far?

Indy Coug

8/21/19 1:08pm

Had a better passing game versus Utah than Taysom ever came close to.

SandYFan

8/21/19 1:09pm

So he was good enough to throw a pick 6 and lose a 20 point lead?

Indy Coug

8/21/19 1:13pm

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ataylor

8/21/19 1:14pm

Your personal attacks mean you have nothing else to argue. Sad.

SandYFan

8/21/19 1:16pm

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ataylor

8/21/19 1:24pm

Hey, compared to Tayson, he was Steve Young out there. That's all we're

SandYFan

8/21/19 1:15pm

NFL Taysom Hill hasn't played against Utah ever.

Belboz

8/21/19 1:29pm

All we know about NFL Taysom is that Sean loves him and he is the

SandYFan

8/21/19 1:30pm

Some good advice for you here..

JohnnyComeLately

8/21/19 1:55pm

Same could be said of Max Hall. And you're comparing apples and mangoes -

oxcoug

8/21/19 1:41pm

Wilson is the better passer. Taysom the better QB if you consider rushing.

SandYFan

8/21/19 12:43pm

RE: Wilson is the better passer. Taysom the better QB if you consider rushing.

UberDeek

8/21/19 3:18pm

How could you put anything but Taysom here? Some fans are loco.

CougaRR4L

8/21/19 12:49pm

Unlike Mack Brown, Kyle W will actually have a great defensive plan next week...

Denile

8/21/19 1:11pm

Let me ask this another way. Would you take Huntley or the best high school

CougaRR4L

8/21/19 1:23pm

Of course I would take Taysom to start next week however...

Denile

8/21/19 1:37pm

I wont disagree with you there.

CougaRR4L

8/21/19 1:41pm

One of them is rostered in the NFL as a QB, the other is coming off his freshman year at BYU.

JohnnyComeLately

8/21/19 1:15pm

Plenty of garbage quarterbacks are third string in the NFL.

SandYFan

8/21/19 1:16pm

Ok.. is John Beck garbage? How about Max Hall?

JohnnyComeLately

8/21/19 1:18pm

Your argument that any third-string QB is a great QB is wrong.

SandYFan

8/21/19 1:19pm

Did I say he was a great QB? I said one of them is getting paid to be a professional QB in the NFL

JohnnyComeLately

8/21/19 1:21pm

Yeah Taysom is a poor passer and always has been. Fantastic runner and phyiscal

SandYFan

8/21/19 1:24pm

Today, it's not even close. This is ridiculous.

Belboz

8/21/19 1:28pm

You assume, based on some preseason play. Not concrete evidence.

SandYFan

8/21/19 1:31pm

you assume Taysom Hill hasn't improved in years.

Belboz

8/21/19 1:34pm

Honestly he didn't improve as a passer much at all at BYU. So maybe.

SandYFan

8/21/19 1:38pm

You obviously didn't watch the Nebraska game when he was healthy and at 100%

BYUMizzou

8/21/19 1:43pm

He looked amazing for less than an entire game. And when he came back, he was

SandYFan

8/21/19 1:46pm

regardless, he had no NFL coaching at that point. He's much better today.

Belboz

8/21/19 1:50pm

Based on the preseason bright spots we've seen? Nah.

SandYFan

8/21/19 1:57pm

He hasn't played against college defenses in years.

Belboz

8/21/19 2:30pm

I guarantee you the 2nd and 3rd string defensive players on NFL rosters are

BYUMizzou

8/21/19 1:42pm

Wrong, anyone who is not a 1st stringer on an NFL roster is garbage.

JohnnyComeLately

8/21/19 1:54pm

How good do you think the average third-string QB is?

SandYFan

8/21/19 2:02pm

In the NFL? Better than Wilson is right now.

JohnnyComeLately

8/21/19 2:03pm

Over the past 10 years, there have been an average of 11 QBs taken in the draft

BYUMizzou

8/21/19 3:16pm

Ding ding ding!!! ^^^

CougaRR4L

8/21/19 3:39pm

Not to mention many of those get cut, Taysom has managed to stay on a roster despite being a UFA.

JohnnyComeLately

8/21/19 3:42pm

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