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CB attorneys, how do you feel about Ancestry collecting DNA from Person A,
thecthdox
7/23/19 12:09pm
What did they tell you that you were going to do with your DNA? Did
Baron
7/23/19 12:12pm
Cant use it for arrest but can use it to help investigation.
shimmy
7/23/19 12:13pm
Golden State killer. They found several 3rd cousins level DNA. Figured out who were common great (maybe another great),
Hank Rearden
7/23/19 12:20pm
Yeah. I’m cool with that so long as the original dna person consented.
shimmy
7/23/19 12:21pm
Not on ancestry
fattycoug
7/23/19 1:01pm
Thanks, yeah, I didn’t mean to imply that, just explaing how they used DNA to catch a killer.
Hank Rearden
7/23/19 8:50pm
You specified non violent. Here is a case where it helped solve a violent crime
dratax
7/23/19 12:21pm
Nobody is combing DNA samples for a snatch and grab, so the hypothetical is
rcbyufan
7/23/19 12:23pm
Avoiding violent crimes to remove emotion and because something used for
thecthdox
7/23/19 12:36pm
I am a fan of hypotheticals and pushing the edges to see weak spots.
rcbyufan
7/23/19 12:39pm
I love it. It’s what should happen.
RdF3
7/23/19 12:15pm
Wouldn't it be hard to conclude that Luke had to have committed the crime?
durandal
7/23/19 12:15pm
Ah, but I set the facts of the hypothetical. Assume it was convincing enough
thecthdox
7/23/19 12:38pm
I'm just trying to make Luke's case for him. If the evidence is, "the DNA
durandal
7/23/19 1:09pm
Need more information. Had any of Luke's limbs been severed?
Pelado
7/23/19 12:15pm
Just a hand, but he got a sweet prosthetic.
thecthdox
7/23/19 12:38pm
Why are you asking only attorneys?
rcbyufan
7/23/19 12:16pm
No problem using it to catch scumbags. Put them away! Love it.
Acorn
7/23/19 12:17pm
So you want less rights?
BYUSeahawks
7/23/19 12:20pm
Police matching up criminals' DNA doesn't impinge on my rights
Acorn
7/23/19 12:27pm
Lol. I think my rights will be just fine in this scenario.
Gerald-DeGroot
7/23/19 12:52pm
Let's put scumbags away but not at the expense of constitutional rights
Baron
7/23/19 12:21pm
Please explain what constitutional rights are being violated in these police
Acorn
7/23/19 12:33pm
Not saying they are. I would need to know the specific
Baron
7/23/19 12:38pm
Just as I thought. Implying a constitutional violation when there is none.
Acorn
7/23/19 12:42pm
Glad you fixed it.
Baron
7/23/19 12:45pm
Luke and Leia? Sounds made up
TNT
7/23/19 12:21pm
I knew I should never have trusted Luke. No wonder he was hiding on an island.
BW84
7/23/19 12:34pm
I hate it.
ironman1315
7/23/19 12:29pm
Check the FAQ. Ancestry does not share with police unless under court order
mtnbiker
7/23/19 12:32pm
Other services do though
TEXAS
7/23/19 12:57pm
Only Gedmatch, I believe, because they are free and open source
fattycoug
7/23/19 1:02pm
I believe a couple other do as well
TEXAS
7/23/19 1:03pm
None of the major paid sites, do.
fattycoug
7/23/19 1:05pm
I'd pay extra for them to destroy my information and not add it to the database.
conetah
7/23/19 12:40pm
I thought the police were getting these from gedmatch.com
El Careeb
7/23/19 12:48pm
I’m against anything that helps law enforcement and brings justice to
Gerald-DeGroot
7/23/19 12:49pm
What is the due process concern?
cracka
7/23/19 1:03pm
I'd like to see the full argument. Most of the ones I've heard have been more
fattycoug
7/23/19 1:07pm
How will you all feel when the "crime" is being Mormon (who by inference
CoogsWin
7/23/19 1:06pm
RE: How will you all feel when the "crime" is being Mormon (who by inference
durandal
7/23/19 1:31pm
RE: How will you all feel when the "crime" is being Mormon (who by inference
TEXAS
7/23/19 1:42pm
RE: How will you all feel when the "crime" is being Mormon (who by inference
DapperDan
7/23/19 1:56pm
RE: How will you all feel when the "crime" is being Mormon (who by inference
AFCougK9
7/23/19 2:56pm
If that’s ever a crime. We have wayyyy more problems to worry about than DNA.
Gerald-DeGroot
7/23/19 3:05pm
I don't think your scenario is even really close to what happens with this.
fattycoug
7/23/19 1:12pm
Exactly. They will always have at the very least a ton of circumstantial
Gerald-DeGroot
7/23/19 3:06pm
The hypothetical is meant to see how far as a society we will go. I once saw a
thecthdox
7/23/19 8:06pm
Not a fan. Too much information given to government.
UNLVcougar
7/23/19 1:13pm
Leia marries Luke to get into the country legally, oh wait...got my names mixed
Romex
7/23/19 1:13pm
I'd be upset if Ancestry or 23andme as private companies gave away info. But getting date from an open site where people
JayOwen
7/23/19 4:15pm
They don't give away data.
mtnbiker
7/23/19 6:53pm
So thanks for all the responses. Instead of due process what if Luke makes an
thecthdox
7/23/19 8:09pm
He'd lose.
ironman1315
7/23/19 8:33pm
I'm not an attorney, so take this opinion with that grain of salt. I have no
durandal
7/23/19 8:58pm
The question of search is one of privacy
ironman1315
7/23/19 9:39pm
For the record, my sisters have already done this so there if the police were
thecthdox
7/23/19 8:11pm
Bear Brook
Sherlock
7/23/19 9:11pm
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