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LiveCoug
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They sure did. Embarrassing for sure.
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Truth serum: You ready for it?
777
6/24/19 6:39pm
You’re blaming too much on independence and not factoring other circumstance
crm48
6/24/19 6:41pm
Yeah, draft picks were dwindling before independence.
foofcoug
6/24/19 6:43pm
We have some very simple minded fans.
Bostonblue
6/24/19 6:41pm
At least with indy I can watch a game.
bluecheese
6/24/19 6:42pm
Everyone assumes we would have been world beaters by staying in the MWC
Cougblau
6/24/19 6:44pm
You mean we are playing MWC teams with nothing on the line? In a
777
6/24/19 6:45pm
Lol, nothing on the line! You’re always playing for pride. You play to win the
Cougblau
6/24/19 6:51pm
You can play the big boys in a G5. How do you think we built our brand? How do
777
6/24/19 6:59pm
Do you want to feel like a P5 or not? Do you want to build depth and a power
Cougblau
6/24/19 7:03pm
Really? It's trending in that direction?
TNT
6/24/19 7:05pm
Whatever. I’m glad y’all aren’t running BYU’s program. Do you
Cougblau
6/24/19 7:08pm
The current setup isn't working
TNT
6/24/19 7:10pm
So if you believe P5 is done, and you don’t want MWC like 777
Cougblau
6/24/19 7:14pm
TNT believes BYU's long-term survival is to be in a conference
TNT
6/24/19 7:14pm
That’s fair. But my entire take is not about just “waiting to get into the club”
Cougblau
6/24/19 7:21pm
BYU has repeatedly shown they don't have the depth to survive that schedule
TNT
6/24/19 7:23pm
Get back to me after this year. I think we can build that depth, you don’t and
Cougblau
6/24/19 7:26pm
How are they meaningful?
TNT
6/24/19 7:29pm
BYU was ranked #20 last year after week 4, and we were 3-1!
Cougblau
6/24/19 7:36pm
BYU cannot thrive in the Independent framework
TNT
6/24/19 7:38pm
Cool. I’ll support BYU til the day I die, and I think you will too.
Cougblau
6/24/19 7:51pm
TNT never attended BYU
TNT
6/24/19 8:06pm
Defeatist? Being a G5 built us into the program we once were. A dominant
777
6/24/19 7:13pm
So your solution is ... to close up shop? It’s not the 70s and 80s anymore.
Cougblau
6/24/19 7:16pm
We haven’t been that since the 80’s man.
che flaco
6/24/19 7:40pm
And don’t even get me started on how you’d react when BYU (Gasp) didn’t
Cougblau
6/24/19 6:55pm
Yeah our players only want to win if there is a MWC championship on the line. If
IceCreamButt
6/24/19 7:24pm
I've heard it first hand out of players mouths. Past and present.
777
6/24/19 7:27pm
I just don't see how indy would make that much of a difference with those things
swingcat
6/24/19 6:45pm
Most Y fans don't see it. Always pointing to everything else. Fans underestimate
777
6/24/19 6:49pm
When thinking of BYUs past accomplishments, is it really the past conference
che flaco
6/24/19 6:54pm
The past titles built our brand. You don't get to those Holiday Bowls and
777
6/24/19 6:58pm
If your point is that indy has been a step back from what we had in MWC...
swingcat
6/24/19 6:56pm
1. TNT doesn't want the MWC. 2. WCC sucks for hoops
TNT
6/24/19 6:58pm
You bring in recruits by winning, not by who you play. Some of the all time
777
6/24/19 7:02pm
Well I think we can agree it's a combination of winning AND who you play.
swingcat
6/24/19 7:03pm
Are you talking about the championship that Boise hosted which drew 12k less
fortysixn3
6/24/19 9:13pm
I fail to see how Indy is the cause of all that and how staying in the MWC would
che flaco
6/24/19 6:51pm
I’m guessing you’re not a scientist who does peer-reviewed academic studies on a
chilango
6/24/19 6:52pm
Hey hey. No reason for name calling
TNT
6/24/19 6:53pm
Yeah, BYU can't beat Utah because the team is independent...
jaromp
6/24/19 6:53pm
And Indendepence doesn't appear to utilize BYU's strengths
TNT
6/24/19 6:55pm
Could it be that BYU has been floating in the "no man's land" of independence
kolob32
6/24/19 7:31pm
Bingo
777
6/24/19 7:33pm
Correlation not Causation
Tare
6/24/19 6:58pm
How many times does BYU beat Utah if we're still in the MWC?
mwcoug
6/24/19 7:01pm
3
777
6/24/19 7:02pm
This is amazing. Thank you.
LiveCoug
6/24/19 7:04pm
Was I supposed to say 0? Too bad we'll never know, and too bad it's been
777
6/24/19 7:09pm
Because there is 0 evidence that Indy is the cause of byus woes against
LiveCoug
6/24/19 7:13pm
I disagree. It's a mindset. Indy has made us a lackluster program with no chip
777
6/24/19 7:17pm
That’s a theory that you have no means of proving.
Bossk82
6/24/19 7:21pm
USU hasn't passed jack. LOL. Nobody gives a rip about USU
LiveCoug
6/24/19 7:25pm
Keep your head buried in the sand and ignore this stat....Since 2010
777
6/24/19 7:31pm
Phil Steele himself said on the radio the other day that USU hasn’t passed BYU.
Bossk82
6/24/19 7:43pm
Yeah and they womped BYU last year
TNT
6/24/19 7:43pm
They sure did. Embarrassing for sure.
LiveCoug
6/24/19 7:47pm
So if BYU wasn’t independent, the team wouldn’t have all those countless
Bossk82
6/24/19 7:20pm
RE: 3
che flaco
6/24/19 7:11pm
Ever since the Wikileaks scandal broke, we can't beat Utah. Curse you Assange!
Goliath
6/24/19 7:06pm
And you think staying in the MWC would have stopped the losses to Utah?
mudpupper
6/24/19 7:11pm
RE: And you think staying in the MWC would have stopped the losses to Utah?
777
6/24/19 7:19pm
BYU independence is causing global warming and the bees to die.
Eddie
6/24/19 8:10pm
RE: BYU independence is causing global warming and the bees to die.
777
6/24/19 8:22pm
Truth Serum. Since Indy.
Bin01015
6/24/19 8:11pm
Can't argue that. If that's what it's about great.
777
6/24/19 8:23pm
Not my preferred approach but afraid some in admin might.
Bin01015
6/24/19 8:52pm
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