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fattycoug
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you're okay with cops covering up DUIs?
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Time
Ugh
crack
6/20/19 2:27pm
Welp.
GlebBaser
6/20/19 2:28pm
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Buffalo
6/20/19 2:29pm
This is the song that never ends...
Crazy Joe Davola
6/20/19 2:29pm
Dang, we didn’t get rid of the BYU police department soon enough
Coog4Life
6/20/19 2:29pm
Well, in this case it’s a safety issue. Shouldn’t be doing that and needs to be
Zaphod
6/20/19 2:39pm
Yeah, stopping a drunk driver? They're the worst.
LosAlcoug
6/20/19 2:41pm
My word, get rid of the word of wisdom already - how many athletes have to get booted before we wake up on this
Bob Vance
6/20/19 3:47pm
Isn't a DUI s felony?
Richbyu
6/20/19 4:02pm
oh I see, that makes more sense now
Bob Vance
6/20/19 4:12pm
I don’t believe so. No.
The Dude Abides
6/20/19 4:17pm
Thanks for clarifying
Richbyu
6/20/19 5:05pm
Class B misdemeanor if it's a first offense. Personally I think it should be a felony but it isn't currently.
SingleStrapBackpack
6/20/19 4:23pm
Thanks. I wasn't sure.
Richbyu
6/20/19 5:05pm
I wasn't either – had to Google it. I was actually surprised the punishment wasn't more severe.
SingleStrapBackpack
6/20/19 5:31pm
Let's make every crime a felony. They shouldn't be able to do things like
deljdc
6/21/19 6:59am
If I blindly shot a gun into a sparsely crowded room, I would likely be charged
AggieWeekendCougar
6/21/19 9:35am
Made a mistake. Not a big deal. Take lumps, move on.
rcbyufan
6/20/19 2:29pm
Driving drunk (if that's an accurate description of what he did) is ALWAYS a big deal.
SingleStrapBackpack
6/20/19 2:31pm
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Buffalo
6/20/19 2:35pm
Let's not be overdramatic. There's likely 100s of drunk drivers every night on
rcbyufan
6/20/19 2:50pm
It's still a reckless thing to do. It's an enormous mistake.
Belboz
6/20/19 2:52pm
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Buffalo
6/20/19 2:52pm
That’s a terrible attitude. Drunk driving should be punished severely.
Mr. Belding
6/20/19 2:57pm
10,000 people in the U.S. are killed by drunk drivers annually.
vagabonder
6/20/19 2:57pm
He didn't kill anybody. He made a mistake. No need to stone him.
rcbyufan
6/20/19 3:06pm
oh now you want him smoking weed?
BlueFrog
6/20/19 3:17pm
Weed does seem to be less dangerous than alcohol but I'm no expert.
rcbyufan
6/20/19 3:49pm
Do your homework....
wilsdad
6/20/19 4:05pm
Just to be clear I was comparing it to alcohol, not saying weed isn't harmful.
rcbyufan
6/20/19 4:13pm
That's fair.
wilsdad
6/20/19 4:18pm
He didn't kill anyone...this time. DUI is a very serious offense.
Byron McNertney
6/20/19 3:21pm
Yeah, he got lucky and didn't kill anyone...
Belboz
6/20/19 3:25pm
What an embarrassingly low bar. "Unless he ends a life, slap on the wrist!"
Bossk82
6/20/19 3:26pm
That's how the system is set up. We can change it. Pau'u doesn't deserve to be
rcbyufan
6/20/19 3:51pm
Yeah, but if he did what he's accused of doing, he needs to learn.
Belboz
6/20/19 3:58pm
A) I'm not sure that's how the system is set up, really B) even if it is maybe
fattycoug
6/20/19 4:02pm
I'm pretty sure no one was planning on stoning him
fattycoug
6/20/19 3:39pm
Tell that to my five-year-old daughter
Boring
6/20/19 10:32pm
Unreal. How ignorant and naive for people to think it’s no big deal.
Gerald-DeGroot
6/21/19 1:05am
Oh my goodness.. I am so sorry for your loss.
TRUE_BLUE_COUGY
6/21/19 1:15am
I'm so sorry. Drunk driving is no joke.
cheezedawg
6/21/19 1:30am
Sorry for your loss. No words.
Cougstreak
6/21/19 8:41am
I'm sorry for your loss. I did not mean to cause you any more heartache
rcbyufan
6/21/19 10:16am
RE: Tell that to my five-year-old daughter
The_Minister
6/21/19 12:45pm
This is a garbage statement. I hope you were hacked and not really writing this.
Cougstreak
6/21/19 5:13am
There's no difference between your logic and gun control advocates. Not to open
rcbyufan
6/21/19 8:46am
This is a ridiculous (and wrong) analogy as there is actually an equivalent - negligent discharge of a firearm, and the
scootsy
6/21/19 9:03am
Of course my opinion would change if he hit someone.
rcbyufan
6/21/19 9:08am
You have got to be kidding me... You have essentially said
jcase16byu
6/21/19 9:48am
I have not argued for NO punishment. He should be punished. I'm sure they will
rcbyufan
6/21/19 10:12am
The punishment isn't the issue--it was your acting like the DUI
LosAlcoug
6/21/19 10:25am
I deserved the outrage. Not a big deal was definitely the wrong words. I have
rcbyufan
6/21/19 10:37am
Gun advocates are more outraged at careless gun usage than anybody else.
Shihan
6/21/19 11:04am
so how does it feel when a guy with multiple DUIs on his record
Belboz
6/21/19 10:26am
I would note that I would support much tougher laws. I think second offenses
rcbyufan
6/21/19 10:38am
and doing it one time is a big deal.
Belboz
6/21/19 11:29am
You argued that it was no big deal... just a mistake. And you are wrong.
jcase16byu
6/21/19 10:38am
If your brain is a can of worms then by all means open your mind.
Shihan
6/21/19 9:51am
Garbage statement/analogy. Completely unrelated and sad comment.
Cougstreak
6/21/19 5:20pm
Boneheaded POTD. Are you serious? Wait until a loved one dies because of DUI
MajorZeus
6/20/19 3:00pm
Well that makes it okay then! Good grief, what a dumb post.
Bossk82
6/20/19 3:02pm
This is how the Utes justify things.He'll receive a real consequence f/ the team
Incentivize
6/20/19 3:07pm
Literally every team in Country would suspend him for one game, maybe two
rcbyufan
6/20/19 3:11pm
That's literally not true.
Bossk82
6/20/19 3:45pm
I'll be sure to direct my wife to your post the next time she brings up her dad
Tare
6/20/19 3:18pm
He made a mistake. He didn't kill anyone. Punishing him for other people's
rcbyufan
6/20/19 3:28pm
It sounds to me like he didn't have good control of his car.
Belboz
6/20/19 3:34pm
I'm not advocating prison. Losing the privilege of playing football for a year
Tare
6/20/19 3:38pm
Honestly. I don't know. I do know that this is a 1 game suspension at literally
rcbyufan
6/20/19 3:48pm
I don't think you're right about that. Eve. If you are, they are handling it
fattycoug
6/20/19 4:04pm
Well,it's got to be about far more than football.
Belboz
6/20/19 3:55pm
He's lucky there weren't people where he was recklessly driving. He was driving
fattycoug
6/20/19 3:41pm
Just because 100s of people are dumb and selfish doesn't make it okay
fattycoug
6/20/19 3:38pm
"I stole from you, but it's okay because hundreds commit theft."
Bossk82
6/20/19 3:41pm
This is true.
rcbyufan
6/21/19 10:19am
My cousin's wife was killed by a drunk driver. Pretty sure I'm not overdramatic
colton
6/20/19 3:40pm
Of all the things to double down on...good grief. Quite possibly the worst post in my 7 years on CB.
SingleStrapBackpack
6/20/19 3:45pm
Ive had a young family member killed by a college student drunk driver. You can
Gerald-DeGroot
6/20/19 3:58pm
as my mission president would say "Elder Pau'u, We Love You, Repent!"
buckeyecougarguy
6/20/19 3:59pm
A mission president would do that (and so should we) but that wouldn't be the end of the consequences
SingleStrapBackpack
6/20/19 4:07pm
agreed. I just would hope BYU would be good at circling the wagons around a kid
buckeyecougarguy
6/20/19 4:11pm
Absolutely. I don't think there should be a question about that. It's how we should treat anybody who makes a mistake.
SingleStrapBackpack
6/20/19 4:24pm
I actually think we are amazing at this
JKLCoug
6/21/19 6:50am
Sure, that doesn't preclude consequences
fattycoug
6/20/19 4:08pm
I try to tell my kids I love them every time I give them a consequence. I love
fattycoug
6/20/19 4:09pm
It's attempted murder
Mitty
6/20/19 4:26pm
Risks people’s lives? Probably. Attempted murder? No.
AZcougLawyer
6/21/19 12:50am
No it’s not.
Gerald-DeGroot
6/21/19 1:07am
And every single one of them should be OFF the roads
Cougrrrs Roll
6/20/19 5:55pm
I'd be fine with this is if it is an across the board type of thing.
rcbyufan
6/21/19 10:04am
Dude have you ever freaking met the family of a person killed by a drunk driver?
Resurgens
6/20/19 7:06pm
I'm honestly not trying to offend anyone. I'm sorry if my words have offended
rcbyufan
6/21/19 9:54am
Just hope you understand it's a very serious issue. A lot of us saw your comment
Resurgens
6/23/19 12:46pm
You have the worst, least thoughtful takes sometimes. Sheesh.
YSMACK
6/21/19 2:02am
This is true. I'm not trying to offend anyone though.
rcbyufan
6/21/19 9:44am
You should try harder. Your comments in here are beyond insensitive and
jcase16byu
6/21/19 9:54am
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Division Bell
6/21/19 5:19am
Wow
Sircumference
6/21/19 11:53pm
Not at the U. But yes we should not take drunk driving lightly, it sucks it will
IceCreamButt
6/21/19 5:30pm
I agree with your sentiment, but obviously driving drunk is a HUGE deal
kimdaddy35
6/20/19 4:36pm
Small kine... suspend him for a game.
Cougar86
6/20/19 2:29pm
Changed my mind after reading about a CB posters daughter not having a mother...
Cougar86
6/21/19 6:00pm
Isn't Jack Dumani supposed to be watching these guys?
GlebBaser
6/20/19 2:31pm
At a party? I doubt it.
The Dude Abides
6/20/19 2:45pm
24/7!!! Fire him!!!!!
fattycoug
6/20/19 2:46pm
Does he not know how to use Uber? Or Lyft?
DKN
6/20/19 2:31pm
Or how not to drink?
Go_Trojans
6/20/19 2:43pm
I couldn’t care less about that. People drink. But people who drink should never drive.
DKN
6/20/19 2:52pm
He signed the HC, he's an RM, he shouldn't be drinking. Period.
ChiCityCoug
6/20/19 3:42pm
DKN just said he doesn’t care about the drinking. I think we all recognize that
The Dude Abides
6/20/19 3:55pm
LDS students at BYU should not drink...period. There is no justification 4 this
CT98
6/20/19 3:58pm
Sure, they shouldn't. some degree of punishment may be okay.
Belboz
6/20/19 4:07pm
Yeah, that analogy is spot on...
ChiCityCoug
6/20/19 4:18pm
Agreed they shouldn’t be drinking at BYU. But I don’t care if they do.
The Dude Abides
6/20/19 4:23pm
That is a weird way to view the world.
ChiCityCoug
6/20/19 4:26pm
Why would you "care"? What does getting all upset about it do?
fattycoug
6/20/19 4:28pm
I care because I have seen the consequences of what he was doing and I hope he
ChiCityCoug
6/20/19 4:30pm
"oh that's not smart" is closer to your assertion of "I hope he gets help" than
fattycoug
6/20/19 4:46pm
You've not followed what I am trying to say. It is hard to convey tone through
ChiCityCoug
6/20/19 5:38pm
How does that not "bother you in the slightest"? They gave their word they would
ChiCityCoug
6/20/19 4:02pm
I'm just not that bothered by other people's mistakes until they become mistakes
fattycoug
6/20/19 4:11pm
See my response below. Your excuse of "it doesn't affect me" is appalling.
ChiCityCoug
6/20/19 4:23pm
If you want to get worked up and Judg about a kid making a mistake like drinking
fattycoug
6/20/19 4:26pm
Sorry to hear that. I hope you invest more feeling into those you love.
ChiCityCoug
6/20/19 4:28pm
So, I'd love a football player I have no connection to more if I spoke more
fattycoug
6/20/19 4:30pm
Yeah, that's exactly what I meant. Great comprehension.
ChiCityCoug
6/20/19 4:33pm
I care about his drinking as much as he cares about whether I pay fast offerings
The Chelsea Dagger
6/20/19 4:12pm
There is a difference between judging someone and holding them to a standard. I
ChiCityCoug
6/20/19 4:22pm
If the honor code was enforced as rigidly as you would like among the football team there wouldn't be a team to take the
DKN
6/20/19 4:30pm
That's too bad you have such low expectations for such great young men.
ChiCityCoug
6/20/19 4:32pm
This isn't me just thinking poorly of them, I actually know guys on the team and this is what they tell me
DKN
6/20/19 4:33pm
Cool
ChiCityCoug
6/20/19 4:35pm
I'm just saying, your perception of my "low expectations" is based in facts and not just me thinking poorly of the guys.
DKN
6/20/19 4:40pm
Hahahah your last sentence almost had me on the floor. But honestly,
ChiCityCoug
6/20/19 4:46pm
I just don’t think it’s my place to hold a perfect stranger to a standard.
The Dude Abides
6/20/19 4:39pm
Well said.
The Dude Abides
6/20/19 4:35pm
I’m not their parent. I’m not their bishop. I have literally no stewardship over them in any way.
The Dude Abides
6/20/19 4:31pm
Neil signed the HC and knows he should not engage in that behavior. Big blow for
CT98
6/20/19 3:53pm
The HCO monitors uber and lyft
rcbyufan
6/20/19 4:11pm
If you know/suspect you are going to drink, take an Uber out.
Natedog916
6/21/19 11:39am
"Two jungle juices”
Ron Mexico
6/20/19 2:31pm
Probably very large cups. No way two drinks get you to .014.
The Dude Abides
6/20/19 2:43pm
.014? Or 0.14? Legal limit is 0.05
UberDeek
6/20/19 2:56pm
Sorry. .147
The Dude Abides
6/20/19 2:57pm
I wonder who he was drinking with?
Zedhead
6/20/19 2:32pm
This is a great question. The fallout might snowball over the next few days
CT98
6/20/19 4:01pm
Selfish, stupid, stupid, stupid.
Six Foot Seven
6/20/19 2:32pm
you don't blow a .147 off 2 drinks
ayfan
6/20/19 2:34pm
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Buffalo
6/20/19 2:39pm
I mean, how big was the cup?
fattycoug
6/20/19 2:45pm
No mercy for drunk driving. Should have his license stripped and should probably be suspended for the whole season.
scootsy
6/20/19 2:37pm
I don't know about how it should affect his status at BYU,
Belboz
6/20/19 2:53pm
Punishment should be severe, my proposal that doesn't ruin a life but is severe
Powerbait DPM studnt
6/20/19 3:57pm
Well, at BYU he's clearly breaking a rule so I could see why it would affect his
fattycoug
6/20/19 4:07pm
Jeesh. Good thing it wasn't Wilson.
BlueFrog
6/20/19 2:56pm
Same as texting and driving. Both should be severe.
Baron
6/20/19 3:15pm
"just 2"
BlueFrog
6/20/19 2:38pm
At a time
J-Rod
6/20/19 2:45pm
Buh-bye 😒 Super sucks
TRUE_BLUE_COUGY
6/20/19 2:38pm
Yup....so sad
Heinz57
6/20/19 7:43pm
Good thing we're loaded at receiver.
Niiineteeen84
6/20/19 2:40pm
RE: Good thing we're loaded at receiver.
Zaphod
6/20/19 2:41pm
RE: Ugh
RexIdaCoug
6/20/19 2:43pm
Swear word!
byuguns55
6/20/19 2:43pm
Puts Butch in an interesting emotional situation.
Lynk
6/20/19 2:44pm
How do you know who it is? Edit: Didn't see the article
JuicyJam
6/20/19 2:47pm
Pleaded “Not guilty” (alerts).
MichCoug
6/20/19 2:50pm
I believe but graduated so what does it matter?
Adrielle
6/20/19 2:49pm
Just thought that Butch might not have finished with the best feelings toward
Lynk
6/20/19 6:00pm
Thats a lot of mixed drinks
Dillinger
6/20/19 2:44pm
Deserves to be suspended for at least half a season
Jimmerfan32
6/20/19 2:44pm
Butchie does not approve
cheezedawg
6/20/19 2:48pm
What is the current status of the relationship between Butch and Neil?
CT98
6/20/19 3:59pm
"It's complicated" "that's my cousin"
fattycoug
6/20/19 4:12pm
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Gustav
6/20/19 2:50pm
It’s a great post. Just 12 minutes late.
The Dude Abides
6/20/19 2:51pm
Better late than never?
Gustav
6/20/19 2:53pm
should have kept it. I have 50+ guys that have me on ignore. They might have liked it.
BlueFrog
6/20/19 2:58pm
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. DUI's deserve strict punishment.
vagabonder
6/20/19 2:51pm
Strongly agree. I got hit by an impaired hit and run driver. So lucky I wasn't
J-Rod
6/20/19 2:56pm
You're very lucky. 10K Americans are killed by drunk drivers every year. It's an
vagabonder
6/20/19 3:01pm
The guy who hit and killed my brother had multiple previous DUI charges
Belboz
6/20/19 3:08pm
One and done in a just world. Hate our system.
Mitty
6/20/19 4:24pm
Suspend him for the season.
Richbyu
6/20/19 2:53pm
Complete knucklehead move on his part. Should probably be out for this season.
che flaco
6/20/19 2:58pm
Suspension a must. Expulsion an option. DUI is serious stuff and goes beyond
MajorZeus
6/20/19 2:58pm
That is why I saw whittingham speeding south down i-15.
Ojiisan
6/20/19 2:59pm
too soon?
byuwahoo
6/20/19 3:02pm
No. That is why be was speeding.
Ojiisan
6/20/19 3:07pm
There was never an excuse for drunk driving
Gustav
6/20/19 3:04pm
Guarantee he had less than a half mile to get from point a to point b. Walk it
Dillinger
6/20/19 3:06pm
He blew a 0.147 — almost three times the legal limit (granted, it's Utah's
Six Foot Seven
6/20/19 3:06pm
Maybe his first time drinking, in denial that he was actually drunk
BYUFootballisBack
6/20/19 3:10pm
Gonna go out on a limb and say his first time drinking wasn’t chugging jungle juice.
The Dude Abides
6/20/19 3:14pm
strawberry lemonade natty lights?
BlueFrog
6/20/19 3:19pm
Far more likely to suppose that this is his first time getting caught, but that
colton
6/20/19 3:41pm
He served in our stake. We had him in our home a couple of times.
wcj99
6/20/19 3:04pm
He was a missionary in my ward and I visited with him often having him over to
777
6/20/19 3:08pm
And who couldnt wait to break this story. The Salt Lib Tribune.
Count Cougar
6/20/19 3:14pm
Good for them. They aren’t in the wrong here.
The Dude Abides
6/20/19 3:16pm
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Buffalo
6/20/19 3:16pm
Also weird that they report on his Mission experience, and what car he drives.
Richbyu
6/20/19 3:24pm
Haha. I like that his "profile page on BYU’s website says" the mission, etc.
Narfin'Coug
6/20/19 3:27pm
That way they can feel good about bringing up the fact that he is a returned mis
stoils
6/20/19 3:29pm
I agree. It is obvious what they are doing.
Richbyu
6/20/19 3:33pm
Agreed.
Gerald-DeGroot
6/21/19 2:03am
Agreed
Gerald-DeGroot
6/21/19 2:05am
Huge bummer. But I hope the other players take this example seriously.
DraperCoug22
6/20/19 3:23pm
The media is not the guilty party in this issue.
Bossk82
6/20/19 3:30pm
Over/under for scooter7 on how before questions who fault this really is?
Superman21
6/20/19 3:16pm
Unfortunate, irresponsible plus he's not playing this season .
BringYourUltimate
6/20/19 3:18pm
Not a word
Tsisquan
6/20/19 3:22pm
Lol, thanks.
BringYourUltimate
6/20/19 7:07pm
RE: Unfortunate, unresponsible plus he's not playing this season .
The Dude Abides
6/20/19 3:57pm
More sad for him. Hope he gets on the path.
Sooner Cougar
6/20/19 3:31pm
Help him get right. Take a year off. Conditional return based off of
BlackBart
6/20/19 3:39pm
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Abe Froman
6/20/19 3:53pm
Guy Holiday is jumping for joy right now.
CT98
6/20/19 3:54pm
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SlantRoute
6/20/19 3:55pm
Hate me all you want. But I expect more out of RMs. I just do.
SlantRoute
6/20/19 3:58pm
Who to say he’s not changed?
eysikal
6/20/19 4:20pm
Um, the cops for starters.
SlantRoute
6/20/19 8:51pm
He's done for the season....maybe he needs some counseling or something.
wilsdad
6/20/19 4:01pm
I try to always have some sympathy for people's mistakes, even if I think they
fattycoug
6/20/19 4:14pm
He needs help....
wilsdad
6/20/19 4:22pm
I thnk he should get plenty of consequences and help. I just find umbrage with
fattycoug
6/20/19 4:44pm
How about this I have a difficult time having sympathy for someone who chose
jcase16byu
6/21/19 10:05am
RE: Ugh
HRCougar
6/20/19 4:02pm
This type of stuff would be covered up by 99% college police, which I'm okay
blackshirts
6/20/19 4:55pm
you're okay with cops covering up DUIs?
fattycoug
6/20/19 5:03pm
I didn't read the report. I was going off the two drinks, which wouldn't make
blackshirts
6/20/19 5:33pm
Interesting that it's the RMs having the serious WoW issues recently.
cosmohio
6/20/19 4:55pm
Hmm. Maybe PUtah's core values don't sound so bad anymore.
tony
6/20/19 4:58pm
Yewt things.
UNHuskerCoug
6/20/19 5:02pm
He will be a Ute next year
jackryanslc
6/20/19 5:19pm
wake up people,there are lots of players on the team that drink,just don't drive
jackryanslc
6/20/19 5:21pm
RE: wake up people,there are lots of players on the team that drink,just don't
byu94wascool
6/20/19 5:43pm
There better not be
Cougrrrs Roll
6/20/19 6:01pm
Agreed.
ChiCityCoug
6/20/19 6:14pm
Coaches know...just don't want them to get caught
jackryanslc
6/20/19 6:32pm
There definitely are
wildcoug
6/20/19 6:44pm
haha ok
Deleted
6/20/19 6:47pm
There are. There always have been. I’ll really blow your mind also by telling you
The Dude Abides
6/20/19 7:56pm
And there are many that don't drink and honor their commitments
Stalwart Man
6/20/19 9:42pm
Of course there are lots that don’t. You can look for a full team of those guys all you want but reality is
The Dude Abides
6/20/19 9:52pm
no doubt
BlueFrog
6/20/19 6:08pm
The kid made a mistake... but it was a serious mistake, and it needs to be dealt with, in such a way.
whitey1980
6/20/19 6:24pm
Imagine sltribs faces when they got this news. Busted out the lsd probably
Y4LYFE
6/20/19 8:52pm
Jungle juice was fruit juice and monster energies
Sexytaxman
6/21/19 11:06pm
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