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Apr 17, 2019
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Dissenter
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that's not what you're advocating
you're advocating a seperate fee that is specifically designated an athletics fee that fewer than half the students care about
That is widely accepted as unethical
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I'm really surprised by some of the responses to this thread. Correct me if I'm
Odysseus
4/17/19 9:21am
RE: I'm really surprised by some of the responses to this thread. Correct me if
Frank Castiglione
4/17/19 9:24am
RE: I'm really surprised by some of the responses to this thread. Correct me if
letthewookiewin
4/17/19 9:28am
What are BYU's customers paying BYU to do?
Mises
4/17/19 9:30am
That ignores the fact that BYU students are essentially free-loading off the
Odysseus
4/17/19 9:34am
You're trying to find a correlation where there is none.
ochobeeguy
4/17/19 9:37am
RE: You're trying to find a correlation where there is none.
Odysseus
4/17/19 9:39am
RE: You're trying to find a correlation where there is none.
Odysseus
4/17/19 9:45am
RE: You're trying to find a correlation where there is none.
Odysseus
4/17/19 9:50am
That's not a peer reviewed source. Again, you fail at the basic rigor of proof
Iki_Balam
4/17/19 10:17am
How does an increase in applications help BYU academically?
ochobeeguy
4/17/19 9:47am
Is that a serious question?
Odysseus
4/17/19 9:51am
His point is that the primary driver of university demand is actual academics
Mises
4/17/19 10:15am
Dont waste your time. This guy probably thinks communism works
Iki_Balam
4/17/19 10:18am
I’m not attending BYU, my kids don’t go to
FanofBYU
4/17/19 12:21pm
Are you serious? You pay tithing because you chose to. It's your religion!
Iki_Balam
4/17/19 12:35pm
I am commanded to pay tithing. I don't get to direct how my tithing is used.
FanofBYU
4/17/19 1:20pm
But back to my primary point - didn't my tuition subsidize the Humanities
Odysseus
4/17/19 10:19am
Quite the opposite, actually.
Mises
4/17/19 10:40am
Your tuition didn't even cover the cost of your education,, let alone subsidize
dratax
4/17/19 11:40am
Immoral & unethical? I must be missing something. If BYU wants to use a part of
Odysseus
4/17/19 12:00pm
that's not what you're advocating
Dissenter
4/17/19 12:06pm
and forcing someone else to pay for your hobby is immoral. That has previously
dratax
4/17/19 12:15pm
BYU can charge whatever they want for tuition and subsequently spend it on
Odysseus
4/17/19 12:26pm
that's. not. the. point.
Dissenter
4/17/19 12:45pm
Yes he/she is
Iki_Balam
4/17/19 12:54pm
Is it immoral that my tithes are being used to subsidize someone’s education?
FanofBYU
4/17/19 12:28pm
Yes, it's legit.3 of the top 5 universities on that list have no varsity sports
ptcougr
4/17/19 12:38pm
You don't think an increase in applications helps a school academically?
Odysseus
4/17/19 12:45pm
Athletics is the marketing tool that has made BYU what it is today
CaliWG
4/17/19 9:43am
The counterargument is that what's made BYU what it is, in an academic sense,
kos
4/17/19 9:54am
Why aren't BYU-Idaho/Hawai'i ranked comparably then?
CaliWG
4/17/19 10:19am
Sports is way down on the list for why people go to BYU. If it's even on it.
ochobeeguy
4/17/19 9:54am
That may be the case now, but it wasn't the case in the 80s & 90s
CaliWG
4/17/19 10:47am
Did you attend BYU because of what Lavell built? Or because you wanted to go to
kos
4/17/19 7:58pm
If BYU didn’t have LaVell I probably would’ve gone to UC Davis
CaliWG
4/17/19 8:08pm
Free-loading is probably not the right descriptor.
Mises
4/17/19 9:58am
It's clear you have no understanding of how colleges work
Iki_Balam
4/17/19 10:16am
No, academics and sports are separately connected. Ref BYU-I, BYU-H, Cal Tech,
ptcougr
4/17/19 12:23pm
I agree with this, but maybe athletics has already served its purpose?
lilpenny
4/17/19 1:28pm
That could very well be
Odysseus
4/17/19 1:33pm
Good luck fighting that fight. BTW, I agree 100% with you.
westsidecoug
4/17/19 9:52am
My wife started her college education in graphic design, then advertising, and
LilToney
4/17/19 10:01am
It's not subsidizing a hobby - it's investing in the best marketing tool BYU has
Odysseus
4/17/19 10:09am
The church doesn't run BYU to make money, and they already reject half of those
LilToney
4/17/19 11:33am
Sports are secondary to all academic endeavours at a University. 'Nuff said
Iki_Balam
4/17/19 10:14am
BioSci > Engineering > Business > Sports > ElemEd > Family Living > Humanities
Odysseus
4/17/19 10:24am
found the biologist. biosci being above engineering or business? lol
Dissenter
4/17/19 10:53am
Gotta keep the doctors happy
Odysseus
4/17/19 11:03am
Hmm, I'm not sure this is true and you need to defend that statement..
lilpenny
4/17/19 1:39pm
Agreed. I wouldn't surprise me
CougaRR4L
4/17/19 12:54pm
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