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Jan 31, 2019
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NAPAnick
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Winning is the dependent variable
Not an independent variable
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I keep saying this. Independence is not hurting BYU.
chazen
1/31/19 12:03pm
We coincidentally started sucking with Independence, then? Just weird timing?
SandYFan
1/31/19 12:04pm
No we just went through a QB drought starting with the year Indy started
Cougz19
1/31/19 12:05pm
So yes, then. Entirely a coincidence we haven't had a great season since
SandYFan
1/31/19 12:06pm
5 star QB's not panning out and injuries prevented us from special seasons. we
Cougz19
1/31/19 12:10pm
So if we had the same players/coaches we would be better team in a conference?
jes2332
1/31/19 12:25pm
except when Bronco instead of winning 10-11 started winning 8 (3 years in a row)
franklyvulgar
1/31/19 7:42pm
Perception vs. Reality
PJMort
1/31/19 12:14pm
"We sucked" is an exagerration. But tell me, which season in Independence is
SandYFan
1/31/19 1:57pm
Which MWC season was special to you?
Dissenter
1/31/19 3:04pm
2006 was amazing. 🙂 Your turn! Which Independence season did you love?
SandYFan
1/31/19 3:28pm
2006? We started 1-2, and weren't ranked until 11 games in
Dissenter
1/31/19 8:18pm
2015 PLZ answer the question were we not 3 miracle pass play fromn 6-7?
CarolinaCoug
1/31/19 6:23pm
And in 2016 we were 4 plays, 8 total points, away from being undefeated.
PJMort
1/31/19 6:57pm
reality - number of years finished ranked in AP as Indy - 0
franklyvulgar
1/31/19 7:20pm
We had a successful offense in place and then changed just as we went Indy
CaliWG
1/31/19 12:15pm
Gary Crowton would like to have a word with you.
chilango
1/31/19 12:18pm
That might have something to do with a tougher schedule
jkccoug
1/31/19 1:51pm
If we were losing at this rate in the MWC it would be worser, badder, turrible.
PJMort
1/31/19 12:05pm
Thank you Chuck!
BYU Grounds
1/31/19 3:07pm
You need P5 players and P5 coaches to win regularly with our schedule. We have
jpal1397
1/31/19 12:15pm
We have a better chance to build that as Indy than in a G5 league
fulano
1/31/19 12:22pm
Minus being owned consistently by Boise and USU.
RockyTopCougar
1/31/19 3:59pm
yeah not finishing ranked and not even sniffing a NY6 is really helping matters
franklyvulgar
1/31/19 7:46pm
Yep. All we need to do is be better than we ever have been before.
Blue Cat
1/31/19 12:40pm
"Show me where independence touched you"
Kauai
1/31/19 12:59pm
If you want wins, you need to change the schedule.
argus
1/31/19 1:33pm
If you want a decent TV contract, you have to schedule good teams.
ManicBlue
1/31/19 1:52pm
exposure and $$$ are the most important things now for BYU, not wins
franklyvulgar
1/31/19 7:51pm
Bingo. This guy gets it.
Iki_Balam
1/31/19 10:29pm
We have the schedules we do because of independence. We are losing because of
TheLoneCougar
1/31/19 1:39pm
I don’t agree.
antiyewt
1/31/19 2:01pm
Solid take.
TheLoneCougar
1/31/19 2:06pm
I’d consider a New Year’s Day bowl to be an enormous accomplishment
antiyewt
1/31/19 2:26pm
Rumors have said that if they expand to 8 teams the the best G5 school will have
TheLoneCougar
1/31/19 2:32pm
We aren't losing to NIU, ECU, USU & UMass because of the schedule
CaliWG
1/31/19 4:28pm
unless the move to Independence is causing us to lose more games...
Hill4Heisman
1/31/19 1:47pm
which it is
franklyvulgar
1/31/19 7:56pm
RE: which it is
soupie
1/31/19 8:01pm
Generally agree. The goal should be to be ranked. A ranked Indy BYU competes
Jay Rick
1/31/19 2:16pm
We were ranked in the top-25 for 2 weeks about 4 months ago, with a loss to Cal
boscatar
1/31/19 2:54pm
Kids care about P5 conference affiliation. We would not get all the top recruits
D.T. Survivor
1/31/19 3:29pm
This true to some extent but if you are a winning program, ranked year in and
BYU Grounds
1/31/19 3:49pm
Yep. I’ve become a big believer in the “ranked” philosophy. I just can’t imagine
Jay Rick
1/31/19 4:35pm
good thing we're hardly ranked anymore
franklyvulgar
1/31/19 7:52pm
I agree but it's difficult to be ranked year in year out
D.T. Survivor
1/31/19 5:51pm
Ding, ding, ding, we have a winner!
BringYourUltimate
1/31/19 3:33pm
And you keep being wrong.
lilpenny
1/31/19 3:44pm
True. Winning solves most problems.
Benfica1
1/31/19 4:01pm
Disagree, we need to be in a conference . . .
Sooner Cougar
1/31/19 4:06pm
You know, I actually agree with your point but still think independence is the better option right now
antiyewt
1/31/19 4:20pm
We HAVE rivalries with Utah, Utah St., and Boise St....we lost to all 3 in '18
boscatar
1/31/19 4:49pm
I dont enjoy playing schools like Wyoming. Or UNLV. And we cant beat Boise.
Iki_Balam
1/31/19 10:31pm
While I don't think it is hurting....I am not sure it is helping.....
Bonoman
1/31/19 4:13pm
Oh okay. Let's start doing that then.
Ham
1/31/19 4:30pm
Preach !!!
Pretorian
1/31/19 5:19pm
Amen!
Anti Nephi lehi
1/31/19 5:38pm
Independence is making it hard for BYU to win games. For a lot of reasons.
Gerald-DeGroot
1/31/19 5:52pm
Yep. Change coaches before changing Indy
Coogar2
1/31/19 6:53pm
Bronco went from a 11 win coach to an 8 win coach under Indy
franklyvulgar
1/31/19 7:53pm
Winning is the dependent variable
NAPAnick
1/31/19 9:38pm
Yes, like winning the lottery fixes financial problems. Just win.
RealityCheck
1/31/19 10:30pm
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