Meh. A lot of that is statistical noise from before we switched QBs.

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Dec 19, 2018
8:20:39pm

jkccoug All-American

Meh. A lot of that is statistical noise from before we switched QBs.

And Sagarin? That's like playing pong on your Atari 2600. Much better analytics are available in the 21st century. We had the 30th ranked defense on S&P+. The offense wasn't good but again was a totally different offense under the new young QB.

there's plenty of reason for optimism.

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Optimistic about BYU football. We're on the rise

hammergm

12/18/18 1:56pm

And we absolutely destroyed Utah in the 1st half

ChairmanOfTheBoard

12/18/18 2:00pm

Just need to see results now. Can't keep losing to Utah, USU, and BSU each year

Dangerous

12/18/18 2:04pm

Last year and this year have worse finishes (sagarin rating) than any year under

Mr. Scoobs

12/18/18 2:06pm

Cool. Let's complain as much as we can and make CB a cesspool.

boscatar

12/18/18 2:10pm

I thought that's what we had been doing.

cdr88

12/18/18 2:14pm

So...maybe address the validity of the comment

FairWeather-L.I.T.S.

12/18/18 6:06pm

Winning 9 consistently isn’t the standard

puntersarepeople

12/18/18 6:26pm

What finish should be the standard? 112 last year and 80 this year

Mr. Scoobs

12/18/18 6:34pm

I never said 6-6

puntersarepeople

12/18/18 6:37pm

And for over 45 years we have averaged around 9 wins a season

Mr. Scoobs

12/18/18 8:39pm

9 wins a game is impossible

puntersarepeople

12/18/18 9:28pm

And 6 < 8. Any objective way you slice it, the program has been worse

Mr. Scoobs

12/18/18 9:38pm

We can’t even have 9 good things happen in a game? Man we are horrible.

12/18/18 9:42pm

Playing WAC and MWC schedules

boscatar

12/19/18 9:16am

MWC SOS has been tougher than the schedules over Kalani, Bronco averaged over 9

Mr. Scoobs

12/19/18 9:17am

Now, go back and look at who we were playing.

boscatar

12/19/18 9:45am

Your first sentence is just not true. SOS factors all those things in.

Mr. Scoobs

12/19/18 10:11am

Team was beat up after AZ, Cal, Wisconsin and Washington, 3 on the road

boscatar

12/19/18 10:19am

People used that excuse during the 4-9 season too.

12/19/18 10:29am

No one else plays four P5s in September - not even P5 teams.

boscatar

12/19/18 10:35am

Kalani has 4 wins vs. bowl teams in three seasons. It's not because the schedule

Mr. Scoobs

12/19/18 10:38am

What would it mean then since you seem to be partial to statistical-based

basman

12/18/18 2:12pm

That the worst finish in multiple decades shouldn't get a gold star just because

Mr. Scoobs

12/18/18 2:24pm

Nobody gives this season a gold star, they give it a C+ because many things were

puntersarepeople

12/18/18 3:13pm

"On the rise" for a C+ season shows how far BYU has taken a step back.

Mr. Scoobs

12/18/18 3:17pm

We definitely have taken steps back but we lost a lot of close ones. Also 8-9

puntersarepeople

12/18/18 3:21pm

Disagree somewhat....It's a myth so far that our sos is tougher under Kalani.

Mr. Scoobs

12/18/18 3:28pm

I don’t trust SOS

puntersarepeople

12/18/18 3:35pm

And we lost to them....Kalani has 4 wins over bowl teams in 3 years.

Mr. Scoobs

12/18/18 5:34pm

I don’t think Broncos schedules were tougher

puntersarepeople

12/18/18 5:48pm

Bronco played 7 — seven — P5 teams in 2013. More than any BYU coach

BeardedSpock

12/18/18 7:15pm

One was a bowl game for Bronco

puntersarepeople

12/18/18 9:31pm

Depth

FMCougar

12/18/18 2:22pm

like they say, lies, lies and statistics. Crowton got blown out by MWC teams.

ImuaKahuku

12/18/18 2:58pm

And Kalani has lost to bottom 10 teams UMass and ECU with much easier SOS.

Mr. Scoobs

12/18/18 3:16pm

I hate to break it to you, but Kalani is getting blown out by MWC teams too

BeardedSpock

12/18/18 7:17pm

Lol. Actually being better than last year is exactly what "improvement" means.

MaxxPower

12/18/18 11:22pm

Yay for the 2nd worst finish in multiple decades!!!

Mr. Scoobs

12/19/18 7:07am

This season hasn’t been any worse than 2010

puntersarepeople

12/19/18 9:09am

2010 finish = 45. 2017 finish = 112, 2018 finish= 82

Mr. Scoobs

12/19/18 9:21am

Wait a minute. isnt being better than last year the definition of improvement?

jkccoug

12/19/18 5:47pm

Program is “on the rise” for the 2nd worst year in decades?

Mr. Scoobs

12/19/18 6:10pm

Meh. A lot of that is statistical noise from before we switched QBs.

jkccoug

12/19/18 8:20pm

Fact remains the program has taken a step back from just a couple years ago.

Mr. Scoobs

12/19/18 8:52pm

I agree about Wilson, and the DBs

antiyewt

12/18/18 2:17pm

Defense scheme isn’t great, but I think they were worried about young players

puntersarepeople

12/18/18 3:16pm

Finished the regular season 19th in total defense I believe.

Adrielle

12/18/18 2:39pm

As long as we get some new coaches the sky is the limit. These coaches

12/18/18 3:31pm

We have very good coaches Cougarboard is a cesspool of negativity

hammergm

12/18/18 8:04pm

You are right it is a cesspool of blue googles with our great 6-6 record.

12/18/18 9:35pm

RE: You are right it is a cesspool of blue googles with our great 6-6 record.

hammergm

12/19/18 1:40pm

And your solution is to fire all the coaches?

hammergm

12/19/18 1:46pm

Where?

Y4LYFE

12/18/18 4:41pm

We need Ula to come back in a bad way

idcougarfan

12/18/18 5:42pm

Still have a terrible recruiting class. 78th isn't going to get 8+ wins.

blackshirts

12/18/18 7:31pm

I hope you're right. Too many dumb dumb losses, especially Utah.

Resurgens

12/18/18 8:43pm

CB needs more posts like this. The downers are getting louder and louder

MaxxPower

12/18/18 11:20pm

Even in the face of measured progress

hammergm

12/19/18 1:43pm

Good point

MaxxPower

12/19/18 3:25pm

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