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BYUSwoop
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Your facts don't support your claim. BYU will never go back, too many games to
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Why BYU as Indi is hurting the program and why I will be deactivating my account
Turbine
11/24/17 6:05pm
Because you don't like us?
Zaphod
11/24/17 6:09pm
Our coaches will work
Zaphod
11/24/17 6:12pm
I may actually miss you Zaphod. Now I'm killing account before i respond to
Turbine
11/24/17 6:23pm
100% agree with everything you said... Spot on
Coug
11/24/17 6:10pm
^^ How you know you are in trouble.
kccougar
11/25/17 11:02am
RE: Why BYU as Indi is hurting the program and why I will be deactivating my account
Fetchin Fetcher
11/24/17 6:14pm
Nobody. Cares. Who. The. MWC. Champ. Is.
Ragnar Danneskjold
11/24/17 6:15pm
Period.
Ragnar Danneskjold
11/24/17 6:15pm
More people will care about the MWC champ than the lower eight teams in the PAC 12.
Brisco
11/24/17 6:30pm
This isn't even close to true.
kotacoug
11/24/17 6:33pm
Okay, do you know who finished 5th or 6th in the PAC last year? Nope. Why? Because nobody cares.
Brisco
11/24/17 7:32pm
Haha you're in lala land, more people care about lower level P5
kotacoug
11/24/17 7:34pm
Nor do I know who is in the running for mwc champ.
Little Britches
11/24/17 8:17pm
Most likely Boise State. That would be my guess
AF Cougar
11/24/17 9:13pm
They didn’t even make the CCG
JamRock
11/25/17 10:33am
Wrong...we’re undefeated in conference play
BSUconvert
11/25/17 10:55am
I thought he meant last year
JamRock
11/25/17 5:40pm
Nope
Adrielle
11/25/17 12:29pm
PERIOD! Tell me about all this national respect BYU has. How BYU and Indy are
blackshirts
11/25/17 12:00am
There's a search function. Go ahead and show me all the times I hinted that Indy was = P5.
Ragnar Danneskjold
11/25/17 12:32am
Exactly... and slinking back to a non P5 conference would be devastating
kotacoug
11/24/17 6:23pm
Um no, independence is not "higher" than G5
coldcoug
11/24/17 8:58pm
It's embarrassing to want to drop down to a G5 so you can feel good about
kotacoug
11/24/17 10:14pm
We wouldn't be "dropping down" to G5. We ARE G5.
Metallicat
11/24/17 11:20pm
Exactly these arrogant and blind Indy lovers think BYU Is ND.
blackshirts
11/24/17 11:40pm
Nobody thinks we are ND. But, a quick look at our ESPN
Cougarbib
11/25/17 7:52am
Hate to burst your bubble
coldcoug
11/25/17 9:31am
We are playing more P5 teams. Do some research.
kotacoug
11/25/17 12:07pm
1-13 against winning P5 teams.
blackshirts
11/25/17 1:10pm
And.... again you make no point. I understand we are losing to P5 the point is
kotacoug
11/25/17 2:37pm
And I’ll take that EVERY time over 13-0 against high school teams
Extra Biscuits
11/25/17 3:02pm
Exactly.... it's the only way we can improve and get to the next level.
kotacoug
11/25/17 3:07pm
You mean those HS teams smashing your...
blackshirts
11/25/17 5:15pm
We need BYU-Idaho to get a football team for fans who enjoy being on top of a
Extra Biscuits
11/25/17 10:38pm
Wow 1 more p5 game than a mwc team
coldcoug
11/26/17 10:09am
We do not control TV for road games. Basically, no team does.
Cougarbib
11/25/17 12:58pm
This🖒
kahuna
11/24/17 11:40pm
Image in your mind. Not nationally. Oh, and recruiting is far from P5 level.
blackshirts
11/25/17 12:03am
nobody is calling for a return to MWC
Cougarealist
11/24/17 6:52pm
What's the difference? Nothing. Nothing is the answer.
Ragnar Danneskjold
11/24/17 7:01pm
oh boy, you are so very wrong
Cougarealist
11/24/17 7:07pm
Sure. I'll ask around at work Monday and see if anybody can name some AAC teams...
Ragnar Danneskjold
11/25/17 12:01am
I've actually agreed with this before and argued this point and to a certain
ColonelMustard
11/24/17 7:47pm
Nobody. Cares. About. Byu...except any school who is in a conference byu wants
idcougarfan
11/24/17 7:56pm
Even fewer care what BYU does
AxelDC
11/24/17 8:24pm
BYU has been irrelevant in football and men's basketball since the move to Indy
CougarinOZ
11/24/17 8:44pm
WCC champ is regularly sweet 16 and last year played for Natty. That’s relevant
Coogar2
11/24/17 9:37pm
BYU has never won the WCC. I said WE are irrelevant.
CougarinOZ
11/25/17 7:41am
Yes GU is relevant. BYU is not or the WCC overall.
blackshirts
11/25/17 8:02am
BYU is usually the 3rd place team
AxelDC
11/25/17 6:22pm
Nobody cares about indy PERIOD! What you think BYU is going 12-0 and the final
blackshirts
11/24/17 9:22pm
In a setting where BYU could easily go 12-0 In the mwc, you're easily wrong.
ToasterChive
11/24/17 10:15pm
Yeah. How many times did we go undefeated in the MWC?
Ragnar Danneskjold
11/24/17 11:55pm
Seems like we are playing with better players these days.
ToasterChive
11/25/17 7:50am
Which Cougars are you watching, BYU or Wash St? This talent is terrible.
blackshirts
11/25/17 11:26am
I think we could very well follow the BSU model.
ToasterChive
11/25/17 4:48pm
So who is it that cares about Independence outside of BYU?
Coug
11/24/17 10:49pm
Why is that relevant to the discussion?
Ragnar Danneskjold
11/24/17 11:54pm
It's relevant because we don't survive as an independent..m
Coug
11/25/17 1:02am
True! This Indy failure has also given teams like UCF and USF the upper hand
blackshirts
11/25/17 7:33am
Which ACC or MWC team gets the same $ BYU gets?
Cougarbib
11/25/17 7:54am
Blah, blah, that $$$ = 115th ranking! UCF #13 Memphis #17 😂
blackshirts
11/25/17 10:29am
Being in a conference would get us a #115 ranking AND less money.
crazY
11/25/17 11:16am
What was UCF ranked last year? The year we beat them?
Cougarbib
11/25/17 1:10pm
If we go G5, we have given up. Might as well go div 2 and join USD's football league.
Ragnar Danneskjold
11/25/17 8:15am
That is a stupid response. Given up lol!.. given up what our 115th ranking.
blackshirts
11/25/17 8:39am
I don't live in Utah and never interact with Utah fans.
Ragnar Danneskjold
11/25/17 1:18pm
But you do think that Indy is = to P5 status or equivalent?
Coug
11/25/17 3:04pm
Of course not. But for BYU, P5 > Indy > G5
Ragnar Danneskjold
11/25/17 5:47pm
Given up what?
Coug
11/25/17 11:29am
The fact is, G5 = Div 2.
Ragnar Danneskjold
11/25/17 1:20pm
You will not take those blue goggles off. INDY is 3 of the worst
blackshirts
11/25/17 1:30pm
G5 has more access to a NYD bowl than BYU...
Coug
11/25/17 2:38pm
Unless it is a playoff spot, which bowl you are in means crap.
Ragnar Danneskjold
11/25/17 5:49pm
The crystal ball says you're in for a miserable CF lifetime. BYU is NEVER NEVER
blackshirts
11/25/17 6:13pm
If UCF can't get within a playoff spot...
Coug
11/26/17 8:39am
Nobody.Cares.About.A.One-Loss.BYU.Team.
Metallicat
11/25/17 11:07am
I am 100% certain that a lot of people would care about a one-loss BYU team.
crazY
11/25/17 11:17am
But our team would still be watching football on TV after New Year's Eve
Metallicat
11/25/17 11:23am
At least 80% of bowl teams will be watching football after New year's.
crazY
11/25/17 12:26pm
But not the highest ranked G5 team. Even with 1-2 losses.
Metallicat
11/25/17 12:54pm
If BYU was 11-1 this season you wouldn’t be ripping on indy.
bluebrotha
11/24/17 6:21pm
But Indy is why we are not 11-1. Why is this hard to figure out? You think we
Cougarfan777
11/24/17 6:38pm
What makes you think that will happen in a G5 conference? We never made a NY6 game when we were in the MWC. How does
monkeycowboy
11/24/17 6:44pm
We could have been 13-0 last season with Sr Taysom and Jamaal if not for coaches
Reasonable1
11/24/17 7:20pm
Right, as soon as we go back to the MWC we'll be 11-1 every year. Wha??
ArchbishopMitty
11/24/17 8:38pm
3-10, ranked 115th is so much better!
blackshirts
11/25/17 10:07am
they'll NEVER be 11-1 or undefeated as Indy
Cougarealist
11/24/17 6:53pm
Humm, when Indy started BYU was the easy leader for non-P5 teams in respect and
blackshirts
11/25/17 7:59am
Something's gotta give. If we're going to stick with Indy because it apparently
Metallicat
11/25/17 11:19am
How does Independence make it "unnecessarily hard on the coaches to recruit?"
fan_byu
11/24/17 6:23pm
Exactly. It's a load of crap. Independence is a selling point but if you
kotacoug
11/24/17 6:29pm
It's not a selling point
shakarocks
11/24/17 9:27pm
A selling point, Bah bah!! Hey 4 star recruits come to BYU, your season is
blackshirts
11/24/17 9:43pm
Baaahaa hey four star recruit.... hey look we're in a G5 conference. Yeh!
kotacoug
11/24/17 10:09pm
UCF, Houston,USF, Navy, BSU, Memphis, Toledo, CSU, Florida Atlantic...
blackshirts
11/25/17 12:19am
BYU has played most of these teams recently and beats them as often
Cougarbib
11/25/17 7:59am
All that matters is those programs are better now, by far!!
blackshirts
11/25/17 11:00am
Again.... NOTHING to do with independence.
kotacoug
11/25/17 12:08pm
Fact: BYU is INDY Ranked 115, Talent worst ever = Everything to do with INDY.
blackshirts
11/26/17 9:28am
Your facts don't support your claim. BYU will never go back, too many games to
BYUSwoop
11/26/17 9:33am
Players want nothing to do with losing more than nothing to do with Indy.
crazY
11/26/17 10:03am
RE: Exactly. It's a load of crap. Independence is a selling point but if you
municoug
11/24/17 11:12pm
Speaking of loads - every other team is not playing for a championship. 1/4
Cougarbib
11/25/17 8:09am
The athletic kids that want a chance at a conference championship or a national
FightingCoug12
11/24/17 6:37pm
There are athletic kids who aren't widely coveted by P5's
shakarocks
11/24/17 9:28pm
#TRUTH boom
kahuna
11/24/17 11:35pm
Don’t deactivate man.
Gerald-DeGroot
11/24/17 6:24pm
Since Indy it's been a slow roll to the bottom of relevancy. Amazing that we
Cougarfan777
11/24/17 6:47pm
Lol a member of our basketball conference made the Title game last year. A team we beat BTW. We just need to not lose to
monkeycowboy
11/24/17 6:49pm
Dang. TNT wants to watch Star Trek now
TNT
11/24/17 6:54pm
So, going back to the MWC will improve recruiting?
VegasCoug83
11/24/17 6:54pm
Recruits don't like 3-9 teams to start. BYU isnt ND, they can't compete at the
blackshirts
11/24/17 8:51pm
FOR THE MILLIONTH TIME, BRONCO HAS NEVER ADVOCATED FOR G5!!!!!
Bostonblue
11/24/17 7:02pm
Thank you, I’m listening.
Beetdiggercoug
11/24/17 7:13pm
G5 is an upgrade at this point. That is if BYU can win at the G5 level.
blackshirts
11/24/17 8:20pm
An upgrade in what way? Schedule? Not really. $? Not even close.
BYUHgrad
11/24/17 8:47pm
Exactly... lost of these G5 programs only play one P5 game a year
kotacoug
11/24/17 10:12pm
Your issue seems to be losing. Independence isn't the cause of that, in fact
kotacoug
11/24/17 10:11pm
And less money for assistant coaches...which is a bigger issue
BYUHgrad
11/24/17 11:48pm
This is understandable.
El Careeb
11/24/17 7:15pm
Wish you would stay because I agree with you.
cowhide
11/24/17 7:41pm
I totally disagree with him on this issue but wish he would stay he's a good po
kahuna
11/24/17 11:38pm
You spelled Indi wrong and AAC Basketball schedule would
Cougarbib
11/24/17 8:01pm
I don’t think MWC or AAC are options anymore.
Gigo
11/24/17 8:17pm
If BYU were to express interest in returning to the MWC
BSUconvert
11/25/17 11:13am
There is ZERO interest in returning to the MWC
Stalwart Man
11/25/17 12:03pm
DILLY DILLY!!! AMEN!!!!
blackshirts
11/24/17 8:17pm
Nobody cares
InkedCougar84
11/24/17 8:25pm
Lololol!
LaVellIfIKnow
11/24/17 8:43pm
I can’t figure out Grand goodbyes.
Florwood
11/24/17 9:08pm
You forgot to use "toxic cesspool" and "mods turn a blind eye" in your goodbye
STLcoug
11/24/17 9:13pm
I've finally come to it. I agree that we should leave indy and go to the AAC.
Nagurski
11/24/17 9:26pm
Who are you gonna kick out? They already have 14.
Gigo
11/24/17 10:05pm
I am sure you can find one other team to make 16
Nagurski
11/24/17 11:20pm
If BYU went undefeated the Cougs could play another undefeated team like Wisky.
Coogar2
11/24/17 9:35pm
Wish I could agree but every player I've spoken with says no to MWC and G5
whiteninja
11/24/17 10:14pm
How many of the Bball players said no to the MWC or AAC and yes to WCC? Crickets
Cougarfan777
11/24/17 11:23pm
Frankly basket ball is not relevant football
kahuna
11/24/17 11:47pm
I find I am much happier on CB if I turn off the Football category - and sometime Basketball - esp after losses
Zenoch
11/24/17 10:36pm
Works with the team? As in a ball boy right?
Turnpike Lane
11/24/17 11:12pm
You had me till you blamed independence. Indy is not the reason you're unhappy.
Y2k
11/24/17 11:31pm
Some times I agree with you some times I don't
kahuna
11/24/17 11:33pm
RE: Why BYU as Indi is hurting the program and why I will be deactivating my
Abe Froman
11/24/17 11:50pm
This is unbelievable.
Adrielle
11/25/17 5:48am
Yes, all yewts please cancel your accounts.
AZcougLawyer
11/25/17 9:07am
Disappointed you deactivated. Enjoyed your info and posts
cube3_cougar
11/25/17 10:10am
God Speed
Coug98
11/25/17 10:51am
Indy isn't working out; join the AAC while they still want BYU
AxelDC
11/25/17 6:28pm
Quite a stretch to call all of that factual.
Cougarbib
11/25/17 10:50pm
That's why it's an opinion
AxelDC
11/26/17 6:18am
What facts indicate AAC wants us?
coldcoug
11/26/17 8:19am
Welcome to the Hotel California, you can check out any time
Archaea
11/26/17 8:59am
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