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Sep 26, 2017
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Eddie
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Listen - this really isn't about YOU.
It's more about CB.
I agree that Hill IS talented. And he WAS talented while at BYU - as you indicate, injury and other factors played a role in his actual performance. But he is/was obviously talented.
I still found it funny. Sorry.
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The narrative that our offense has done nothing good under Detmer is wrong.
GOR
9/26/17 3:12pm
RE: The narrative that our offense has done nothing good under Detmer is wrong.
smokymountainrain
9/26/17 3:13pm
Thanks to two all time leading rushers that went on to the NFL
Jericho
9/26/17 3:14pm
No doubt the Jamaal/Taysom duo had a lot to do with the good stats
GOR
9/26/17 3:25pm
With a QB/RB combo like that... Gary Crowton would have had a heyday
Jericho
9/26/17 3:30pm
Coaching is overrated when you have great players. Great or not, your record is
coastcat
9/27/17 8:42am
From 4th grade to Pro I agree. There are some anomalies,
Refugee
9/27/17 9:09am
I generally see it as about 75/25 in terms of talent/coaching
Jericho
9/27/17 11:04am
Agreed.
Refugee
9/27/17 12:24pm
This is funny.
Eddie
9/26/17 3:46pm
Actually Eddie, that's not what he's saying.
Thug Mormons
9/26/17 4:01pm
That's more revisionist history.
Eddie
9/26/17 4:33pm
Stop projecting your opinion or what some CBer's said on me or on reality
Jericho
9/26/17 4:36pm
I'm not projecting ANYTHING on you.
Eddie
9/26/17 4:42pm
I've always been high on Hill and wanted him to start until he graduated in a
Jericho
9/26/17 4:49pm
I'm with you. Really, I am.
Eddie
9/26/17 4:53pm
I called him talented because he was a Heisman candidate before he got injured
Jericho
9/26/17 5:02pm
Listen - this really isn't about YOU.
Eddie
9/26/17 5:05pm
He was injured
smokymountainrain
9/26/17 9:26pm
Most teams that do well in college have at least two similar types of players.
Refugee
9/27/17 7:57am
There were indeed some strong aspects to our offense last year. Folks got frustrated watching the passing game
CalGTR
9/26/17 3:18pm
Exactly. No doubt the passing game had (has) major holes. But the strong aspects
GOR
9/26/17 3:21pm
It shows that with an NFL QB and RB we could only muster an average offense
ayfan
9/26/17 3:24pm
Hill wasn't an NFL QB.
smokymountainrain
9/26/17 3:25pm
RE: Hill wasn't an NFL QB.
Scratch
9/26/17 3:32pm
Come on. He was coming back from a terrible injury.
GOR
9/26/17 3:44pm
Right, he couldn't throw because of his foot... lol
Jericho
9/26/17 4:14pm
If we just wanted him to be John Beck...
Eddie
9/26/17 5:39pm
He had a better passer rating as a true freshman fresh off a mission...
Jericho
9/26/17 5:42pm
Are you talking about Mangum or Hill?
Eddie
9/26/17 5:50pm
Hill played here and there and eventually started two games before being injured
Jericho
9/26/17 5:54pm
Just to be clear what we are talking about...
Eddie
9/26/17 6:10pm
My point is that he was a freshman completely new to the college level
Jericho
9/26/17 6:16pm
Accuracy is accuracy.
Eddie
9/26/17 7:05pm
It's not just accuracy though, that's what you don't seem to understand.
Jericho
9/26/17 8:07pm
I understand.
Eddie
9/26/17 8:15pm
You never answered my question about Taysom vs Nebraska though
Jericho
9/26/17 8:22pm
You keep missing my point.
Eddie
9/26/17 8:29pm
I played the position in HS, so I do have some idea about what is needed
Jericho
9/26/17 8:39pm
I agree that something has to change.
Eddie
9/26/17 8:42pm
I actually expect to see us running more uptempo read option this week
Jericho
9/26/17 8:44pm
That's from this year, right?
smokymountainrain
9/26/17 9:26pm
Yes. Hill didn't play for BYU and in the NFL last year.
Scratch
9/27/17 8:23am
that seems obvious to everybody but you considering i said he wasn't
smokymountainrain
9/27/17 8:25am
You're wasting your time
BYURider
9/26/17 5:43pm
I'd be happy to get 200 yards passing per game
Jericho
9/26/17 5:48pm
You'll get it this week
BYURider
9/26/17 5:51pm
We had the 66th offense last year, against some bad teams with 2 NFL guys.
Turbine
9/26/17 3:20pm
All we need are two NFL caliber players at QB & RB to have a perfectly mediocre
Jericho
9/26/17 3:24pm
RE: All we need is two NFL caliber players at QB and RB to have a perfectly
smokymountainrain
9/26/17 3:26pm
Hill wasn't a freak athlete and certainly wasn't a NFL caliber QB last year.
smokymountainrain
9/26/17 3:26pm
Partial credit. He was also out of place in a system that didn't use his legs.
Turbine
9/26/17 3:28pm
Taysom Hill was "not" a freak athlete? You mean just last year?
BleedCougarBlue2
9/26/17 3:29pm
That's because he was way too bulky along with most of the team. Hill now looks
SnickSnack
9/26/17 4:21pm
He still had his 2nd best rushing season last year and was good enough to
Jericho
9/26/17 4:38pm
Not a great point considering all other seasons but one
SnickSnack
9/26/17 8:52pm
at the start of the season I did think he was slower
Jericho
9/26/17 9:41pm
We were 62nd in scoring Offense, that isn't good
ayfan
9/26/17 3:20pm
Who cares about yards if you have the ball for the entire 1st quarter & score 7?
GOR
9/26/17 3:23pm
Your ignoring my main point, 62nd is scoring is not a good offense
ayfan
9/26/17 3:29pm
I'm not ignoring your point. 62nd in scoring IS a good offense IF
GOR
9/26/17 3:53pm
Also worth noting that over the last 9 games we scored 37ppg.
Phcole
9/26/17 4:02pm
Yep, the stats that really matter are 1) points per possession and
Scratch
9/26/17 4:03pm
good luck replicating a 5th year senior with 1000s of reps and an all-time RB.
ag4cougs
9/26/17 3:35pm
we were barely average with GOAT at RB and best athlete ever at QB
nashty
9/26/17 3:28pm
Define average
GOR
9/26/17 3:34pm
mid 60's nationally. That was easy.
Turbine
9/26/17 3:40pm
<< Deleted >>
GOR
9/26/17 3:45pm
Can we stop pretending that not putting up points was in the game plan?
Left Shark Coug
9/26/17 3:31pm
thank you. been saying this for over a year.
ag4cougs
9/26/17 3:36pm
No, because you're wrong.
GOR
9/26/17 3:41pm
How about UCLA? Utah? Did you even watch those games?
Turbine
9/26/17 3:48pm
Your opinion would be valid if we had actually been sustaining drives and not
Left Shark Coug
9/26/17 3:51pm
Huh?
GOR
9/26/17 3:56pm
You move at an extreme snail pace and rack up stats on bad teams.
Left Shark Coug
9/26/17 4:07pm
Except that's untrue. WVU was a top 40 defense in ppg allowed. Toledo was 54th.
Phcole
9/26/17 4:25pm
Hmmm..if only there was a high scoring game last year, one the defensed needed
BYUSwoop
9/26/17 10:30pm
Awesome. Now repeat it so it doesn't appear to be a fluke.
Left Shark Coug
9/27/17 8:17am
Did it twice
BYUSwoop
9/28/17 6:19pm
2 out of 17. Not bad. Trending up or down right now?
Left Shark Coug
9/28/17 6:49pm
Live in the now. BYU fans get accused of living in the past
BeYoU
9/26/17 4:47pm
You have a point here.
GOR
9/26/17 4:54pm
Our recruiting rankings fall typically in the 50 - 60 range. Our offense should
BlueForLife
9/27/17 1:37am
My biggest concern is that we couldn't identify
CougsCavsCats
9/26/17 7:31pm
Like at RB? That is my biggest criticism of the staff.
GOR
9/26/17 9:20pm
Here piggy piggy piggy! We got some nice lipstick for you....
cajuncoug
9/26/17 9:19pm
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