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May 28, 2017
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SoValleyCOUG
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This^^. The entire century, most games have been down to the last min, even the
Last play of the game before it's decided. I'm glad BYU now has coaches that take the rivalry more seriously than just another game.
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Observations about the Utah rivalry since 2005 from a guy who tutored some of the players.
sakhr
3rd String
5/27/17 6:25pm
They took the week off when they had a bye B4 Utah. Wanted BM gone since
Y4LYFE
5/27/17 6:30pm
I remember that....that was very disheartening. Especially with us mired in a...
icecougar
5/27/17 8:35pm
Nothing shocking there. This was one of my biggest beefs with Bronco.
Kerbouchard
5/27/17 6:31pm
To say the coaches didn't care about a rivalry game is a huge generalization.
TheLoneCougar
5/27/17 6:49pm
He's going off of a very small sample size...not surprised by the post either.
coug10278
5/27/17 6:52pm
You act as if I'm the first to say any of this. Like I said, just the observations of the players I worked with.
sakhr
5/27/17 7:22pm
No, you clearly aren't the first.
TheLoneCougar
5/27/17 7:29pm
That's fine. But let's remember that the head coach never did play in it, and he sets the tone and the direction of the
sakhr
5/27/17 7:34pm
I never said "coaches value the rivalry as much as fans".
TheLoneCougar
5/28/17 4:06pm
So you agree with my post then?
sakhr
5/29/17 1:17pm
Where have you been? Were you even paying attention during Bronco's tenure? He
Kerbouchard
5/27/17 9:44pm
And I clearly stated this in my OP. I know what Bronco said, and to a degree
TheLoneCougar
5/28/17 4:09pm
Maybe so, but the results sure didn't bode in their favor
Harrison0Yfan
5/27/17 11:13pm
Agree completely.
TheLoneCougar
5/28/17 4:10pm
"Didnt care enough" then. & Results show that. Obviously a coach cares about
NotOfYourFaithBYUFAN
5/28/17 2:59am
Agreed. His method may have been lacking, but that doesn't he didn't want to win
TheLoneCougar
5/28/17 4:11pm
Does doing something extra and different for the Utah game become an admission
BYUFBDAD
5/27/17 6:53pm
I think a lot of it comes down to attitude, which is something the guys I knew sensed but even they couldn't put it into
sakhr
5/27/17 7:13pm
Little will change until recruiting becomes 'Top 30' (consistently).
MichCoug
5/27/17 7:38pm
One quibble. Quantity of NFL players proves Utah had better talent.
ALUF 1990
5/27/17 8:09pm
Or it orives the talent was vetter coached... BYU has.been th3 favorite
CarolinaCoug
5/27/17 8:40pm
what do you think a big spread is?
formerly utesplease
5/28/17 1:07am
Two points
jrj84105
5/27/17 8:40pm
That is only complaint agains BM. Lack of preparation and robotic approach.
SoValleyCOUG
5/27/17 9:18pm
Utah's "surge" ahead is exaggerated
Gustav
5/27/17 9:32pm
It's been coaching. BM was out prepped by whit.
SoValleyCOUG
5/27/17 9:38pm
it's been our schedule.... you try out-recruiting the Yewts when their schedule was obviously better.
HarlemCoug
5/27/17 9:48pm
Look at 2005 game. BYU was FAR better but lost in OT. Easily out prepared.
SoValleyCOUG
5/27/17 9:59pm
Utah's Schedule was better than ours between 2005 and 2010? They were both in the MWC. If anything we had bigger games
sakhr
5/27/17 10:04pm
The surge is very very real, but not spectacular. From 2000-2010, Utah averaged
ALUF 1990
5/28/17 9:29am
Proof is in the pudding
Gustav
5/28/17 11:40am
This^^. The entire century, most games have been down to the last min, even the
SoValleyCOUG
5/28/17 12:34pm
If you truly believe this, than KW has underperformed over the past 6 years.
TheLoneCougar
5/28/17 4:17pm
KW has underperformed. The OCs, QBs, and offense in general have been terrible.
jrj84105
5/28/17 6:10pm
3 things. Utahs bad OC, Lots of Utah turnovers, BYU wants it more
ALUF 1990
5/29/17 5:28am
BYU has four future draftees on the entire team? Give me a break.
Harrison0Yfan
5/29/17 8:58am
How many draft picks has BYU had in the last 6 years combined???
ALUF 1990
5/29/17 9:37am
That's irrelevant when we're talking about the future under a completely new
Harrison0Yfan
5/29/17 10:08am
Utah has been far luckier than BYU
Gustav
5/29/17 9:12am
Luck? The Utes put the ball on the ground approx 15-20 times last game. Luck
ALUF 1990
5/29/17 9:41am
You also might be ignoring the fact that BYU seems to play its worst games
Harrison0Yfan
5/29/17 10:16am
Utah has been very lucky in a lot of their games against BYU
Gustav
5/29/17 7:59pm
BYU was favored in many of these games and the U won outright.
Gene Frenkle
5/27/17 10:06pm
While Bronco does deserve some blame for the current streak
Seasider
5/27/17 10:14pm
I agree, we were outcoached and Utah players were more mentally ready.
oldrugger
5/27/17 10:32pm
BM out coached?? Ya don't say!
zerome4sooners
5/28/17 8:27am
Now look up how many players were drafted from Utah in 2009. It was like 6.
BYU81
5/28/17 8:53am
Players will always blame it on the coaches.
Sooner Cougar
5/28/17 9:56am
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