Payne was an awesome player...an even better person.

Aug 28, 2015
7:52:40pm

BYUHgrad

Shanks happen every year many times over (Utah 2012 after a massive miracle re-do).

Matt is a personal friend and one of the best men in this world! i know he hates that shank more than all of us...combined!

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Interesting side note to Payne's FG choke vs Boise St in 2004...

icecougar

8/28/15 2:34pm

True but....

scottm

8/28/15 2:39pm

bottom line was to win 6 games and a win over Boise St gives him 6...

icecougar

8/28/15 2:44pm

OTOH, a win over Boise may have changed the attitude on the team

mogelijk

8/28/15 3:46pm

momentum builds culture for sure....

icecougar

8/28/15 4:40pm

That was Stanford.

TeeKaa

8/28/15 3:10pm

What happened in the last week that has generated all these pro-Crowton

Bostonblue

8/28/15 2:39pm

not to mention the constant haranguing of Payne

blucoug18

8/28/15 2:45pm

I think that miss shook his confidence

donnerstag

8/28/15 3:10pm

it shook a lot of us. I was stunned...

icecougar

8/28/15 3:42pm

Payne was an awesome player...an even better person.

BYUHgrad

8/28/15 7:52pm

The players I;ve spoken to loved crowton as a person

scottm

8/28/15 2:45pm

Crowton did the right thing after the 2001 team's core players graduated

donnerstag

8/28/15 2:57pm

It's absolutely the case. Three straight losing seasons for the

Bostonblue

8/28/15 3:22pm

Crowt on was building for the future

donnerstag

8/28/15 8:42pm

I got to hand it to you. You have no fear standing alone in your thoughts.

Bostonblue

8/28/15 9:15pm

There are multiple posters that agree with me

donnerstag

8/28/15 9:32pm

Good to know that you got a couple of comrades who got your back.

Bostonblue

8/28/15 9:36pm

The proof is how many NFL players and college stars

donnerstag

8/29/15 6:43am

The measure of success is certainly not NFL players (although yewts would hope

Bostonblue

8/29/15 8:59am

Coaches can't be judged by wins and losses alone

donnerstag

8/29/15 9:24am

No coach can survive three straight losing seasons at a program with the history

Bostonblue

8/29/15 9:31am

Crowton won a National Championship at LSU

donnerstag

8/29/15 6:54am

It's the Jimmy Carter effect.

QuickCoug

8/28/15 3:07pm

There was going to be a recession in BYU football with or without Crowton

donnerstag

8/28/15 3:20pm

The coach you are denigrating has the stadium named after him.

Bostonblue

8/28/15 3:24pm

Lavell was the man!

donnerstag

8/28/15 3:29pm

Crowton had 4 years to create a winner and failed.

Bostonblue

8/28/15 3:37pm

Why does everyone forget that it was Mike Borich that was the man. He was why

indocoug

8/28/15 4:23pm

or the Obama effect. Hey, that last guy actually wasn't so bad...

doubleduce

8/28/15 5:22pm

winning solves a lot of problems...

icecougar

8/28/15 3:35pm

With all this NFL talent you speak of, how come Crowton only won 5 games.

coolblue

8/28/15 2:43pm

The NFL talent was very young in 2004

donnerstag

8/28/15 2:55pm

Did you not see the SOS for that season?

Kerbouchard

8/28/15 2:59pm

Because he wasn't a good coach.

Walter Bellhaven

8/28/15 3:14pm

many were still young and inexperienced in '04 they also played #11 toughest SoS

icecougar

8/28/15 3:19pm

He still would have been fired. Losing games was just a small part

byubyu

8/28/15 2:45pm

Beck was hardly a guy that looked like NFL talent that year.

RaggaeCoug

8/28/15 2:54pm

Beck was already good with an upward trajectory

donnerstag

8/28/15 2:59pm

That wasn't Payne's choke, it was Crowton's

Walter Bellhaven

8/28/15 3:13pm

IIRC in that game, we tried to center the ball on 1st down.

SpiffCoug

8/28/15 4:12pm

This doesn't explain 2002 or 2003...

WhiteKnight

8/28/15 9:29pm

Glad one point was brought up

ajweston

8/28/15 11:57pm

Bronco inherited a talented and experienced team

donnerstag

8/29/15 6:32am

inaccurate portrayal

icecougar

8/29/15 4:14pm

Ohhhh, now we're blaming all of BYU's ills on Mitch Payne...

Jomo

8/29/15 12:15am

who is saying it's an ill?

icecougar

9/2/15 11:09pm

I guess you can't type out saracasm.... sigh

Jomo

9/3/15 12:19am

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