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Jul 1, 2015
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MoonPie
The VSTOL Marine version was a small show versus the AF and Navy buys.
But you are exactly right. The VSTOL version was and still is much, much too heavy.
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To any AirForce or military guys w/ an opinion or knowledge re:the F-35 and it's
MatthiasG
7/1/15 4:35pm
the response from the military was interesting....they're saying that its not
johnnycarson
7/1/15 4:44pm
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Mickey
7/1/15 4:47pm
It is intended for stand-off range combat
2FarGone
7/1/15 4:50pm
yeah so the pilot comments about dogfighting are sorta dumb.
johnnycarson
7/1/15 4:52pm
yeah,"that it didn't have the stealth coating, latest software, was early versio
MatthiasG
7/1/15 4:58pm
Got a really belly laugh outta your gif.We've got bigfooters somewhere in fam.
MatthiasG
7/1/15 5:01pm
The F-22 is the best plane ever made, we should have made more instead of
Jericho
7/1/15 4:44pm
Doesn't the F-22 have to spend lots of time in the shop for repairs in between
So it goes...
7/1/15 4:49pm
No.
2FarGone
7/1/15 4:51pm
Even w/ all the F-22 problems, and groundings due to O2 problems recently,
MatthiasG
7/1/15 5:11pm
The VSTOL Marine version was a small show versus the AF and Navy buys.
MoonPie
7/1/15 7:02pm
The requirement for STOVL by the marines screwed with the overall design from
Jericho
7/2/15 12:58am
I'm pretty new to the game, but it seems to me they could just upgrade the
db59840
7/1/15 4:44pm
That said, I agree with Jericho that we should have kept the F-22 going. I guess
db59840
7/1/15 4:46pm
I heard that the F-35's stealth capability was downgraded for cost controll...
So it goes...
7/1/15 4:51pm
They have upgraded the F-18 and F-16 many, many times
2FarGone
7/1/15 4:53pm
Not only have they been upgraded in the past, these airframes continously get
cougarfan84
7/1/15 5:09pm
Yeah, the Super Hornet vs. F14 is a huge reduction in maintenance costs, can't
MatthiasG
7/1/15 5:15pm
The only REAL missile company is Ratheon in Tucson. Our government felt
MoonPie
7/1/15 7:05pm
We're on the same page, I've been wondering the same things...
So it goes...
7/1/15 4:47pm
I have heard a former CSAF say
2FarGone
7/1/15 4:49pm
"...may have to re-open the F-22 production lines..."
We can only hope.
OldCosmo
7/1/15 4:52pm
There is a reason they ordered that all the tooling be preserved....
Taullis
7/1/15 6:29pm
Sucks when all the big R&D costs are already spent, production lines running and
MatthiasG
7/1/15 5:34pm
Sat and talked with the Wing Commander at Tindle a couple years ago. He was a 15
Six Foot Seven
7/1/15 5:08pm
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Mall Santa
7/1/15 5:08pm
It's amazing what happens when you combine the 22's stealth and kinematics
db59840
7/1/15 5:33pm
Yep. He stated we could park 8 22s in Asia and China still wouldn't have a
Six Foot Seven
7/1/15 6:29pm
Those are big limitations, and he missed one
krewus
7/1/15 9:51pm
Thx. Thats why the F-16 close dogfight could be totally irrelevant w/ 35.
MatthiasG
7/1/15 5:38pm
I use to be stationed at Tyndall AFB, who was the wing commander to whom you
mflood
7/2/15 6:27am
I was just on a "distinguished educator visit" and met so many officers on that
Six Foot Seven
7/2/15 9:05am
There are a bunch of great comments on reddit. Here are a couple:
Non-donor troll
7/1/15 6:07pm
Lots of interesting opinions here. There have certainly been issues with
MoonPie
7/1/15 7:00pm
Are the F-22 and 35 the last two manned fighters we'll ever make?
MatthiasG
7/1/15 7:06pm
Remember, in the air there are only fighters and targets.
MoonPie
7/1/15 7:06pm
Just came across this article, It starts off with a look at the F35...
So it goes...
7/4/15 10:54pm
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