Are you suggesting Howel is one of the three Neophytes?

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Nov 24, 2014
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Can anyone give me a 5 man short list

byukarl

11/24/14 7:45am

I haven't seen five even removing the Head Coach

CasualFan

11/24/14 7:49am

thats my problem as well

byukarl

11/24/14 7:52am

Let's keep him because we could never find someone else to hire.

Mike Ross

11/24/14 8:03am

Unless he completely loses the program you don't do that

byukarl

11/24/14 8:20am

Don't do what? Keep him?

Mike Ross

11/24/14 8:51am

What about 7-6 followed up by 5-7?

concolor couguar

11/24/14 9:40am

Why #2? Bronco and KWhitt didn't meet that criteria before BYU offered them.

russkiejedi

11/24/14 7:51am

because everyone is whining

byukarl

11/24/14 7:56am

I'm actually "whining" that Bronco turned over what he does best to a neophyte.

russkiejedi

11/24/14 7:59am

Are you suggesting Howel is one of the three Neophytes?

swingcat

11/24/14 9:17am

because he wants to create so many requirements that only 2 guys can fill them

concolor couguar

11/24/14 8:11am

I can't think of 5 that meet your conditions.

Walter Bellhaven

11/24/14 7:55am

And that's why it would be a mistake to fire

byukarl

11/24/14 7:59am

I guess that depends on who YOU are.

Walter Bellhaven

11/24/14 8:02am

And no one at the BOT cares who YOU are either

byukarl

11/24/14 8:06am

That's fine, but then again, I wasn't the one trying to set the standard.

Walter Bellhaven

11/24/14 8:07am

RE: And that's why it would be a mistake to fire

swingcat

11/24/14 9:22am

can you give me even one, for sure option?

byukarl

11/24/14 8:00am

The only one I can think of is Kenny N, but he's not much of an upgrade.

Hambone

11/24/14 8:03am

Nope. In fact, even KW and Bronco didn't meet your standards before

Walter Bellhaven

11/24/14 8:04am

My point is that you hire a real HC if you fire him

byukarl

11/24/14 8:12am

Couple things.

Walter Bellhaven

11/24/14 8:17am

I guess we'll just disagree

byukarl

11/24/14 8:24am

The logic that every coordinator promoted to HC

Walter Bellhaven

11/24/14 8:28am

Ot would be very dificult to end up in worse shape..

CarolinaCoug

11/24/14 10:11am

I did and it's NOT my job to know that.

CarolinaCoug

11/24/14 10:08am

#3 goes both ways. If the BOT wants a pool of candidates

TNT

11/24/14 7:55am

I'd love to hire Leach ... But

byukarl

11/24/14 7:58am

Leach is an interesting case. TNT would guess that his personality

TNT

11/24/14 7:59am

I've heard he isn't very active

byukarl

11/24/14 8:03am

Yeah. As long as someone is willing to live and uphold the standards

TNT

11/24/14 8:04am

He is now.

Gentleman Stan

11/24/14 9:37am

Because we've been so happy with offense and no defense this season.

cougarick

11/24/14 8:01am

And "you all" whined about the offense with Doman

byukarl

11/24/14 8:28am

Don't think it's too much to ask that one side not be completely crappy

cougarick

11/24/14 8:34am

This is what you'd get with Leach. If this is what you want ...

fan_byu

11/24/14 9:00am

I agree. I think BYU could have picked him up as an OC

reddead

11/24/14 9:21am

#2 is unnecessary and #4 is unknowable.

sakar12

11/24/14 8:07am

#2 is unnecessary???

byukarl

11/24/14 8:14am

It seems to be most of the critiscm is he went away from that model this year

concolor couguar

11/24/14 8:18am

Chris Peterson was an OC before HC. He did OK. Where do you think HCs come from?

jakespoon

11/24/14 9:35am

RE: Chris Peterson was an OC before HC. He did OK. Where do you think HCs come

concolor couguar

11/24/14 9:37am

Exactly.

jakespoon

11/24/14 9:44am

Bronco was awesome for 5 years. I'd hire him again in a heartbeat...

jakespoon

11/24/14 10:21am

Yes. As has been pointed out before, BM

sakar12

11/24/14 10:50am

Your #3 is very subjective...

teancum

11/24/14 8:12am

RE: Your #3 is very subjective...

byukarl

11/24/14 8:18am

Here is a quick list of HC's that had no college HC experience prior....

slatecoug

11/24/14 10:03am

I believe he has to be to have a temple recommend as well.

Cosmo's Kid

11/24/14 8:19am

Boardmail Tom Holmoe.

foofcoug

11/24/14 8:26am

Unfortunately he has TNT blocked

TNT

11/24/14 8:28am

By your standards, #2 disqualifies Reid.

slowhiteguy

11/24/14 8:29am

"Sadly, this (BYU football) feels like a sinking ship with no hope". - byukarl

Zach Morris

11/24/14 9:12am

You know Lavell had no HC experience when he took the BYU job?

slatecoug

11/24/14 9:25am

EVERY HC at some point had no HC experience. That is just ridiculous.

jakespoon

11/24/14 9:54am

Yes it is. But under his list our most successful HC would be DQ'ed from the job

slatecoug

11/24/14 10:08am

And he's claiming it didn't work. It absolutely worked. For 5 years!

jakespoon

11/24/14 10:22am

Technicaly it has worked all TEN ....

CarolinaCoug

11/24/14 10:45am

Bingo. Major flaw with the OP has been uncovered.

Walter Bellhaven

11/24/14 10:30am

You don't need 5, you only need 1.

lawboy

11/24/14 9:25am

A rising star like Urb (a HC) will never use BYU as a stepping stone.

jakespoon

11/24/14 9:43am

Also, chances are, if he's a HC somewhere else, there's a reason he's looking

jakespoon

11/24/14 9:53am

hmmm, I thought a condition was that the head coach should not be a PR mook

sundance

11/24/14 10:01am

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slatecoug

11/24/14 10:06am

Leach, Andersen, Whit, Niamatolu, Andrus, Stubbs. NOW STOP

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