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YSMACK
Not really, no. Just make bald assertions though.
That is all you can do. You can't actually make substantive comment or point out actual instances.
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For the Fire Bronco crowd, who do you see replacing him?
cougar_chick1
10/21/14 6:54am
Doman.
Bert609
10/21/14 7:10am
I actually think Doman would have made a better HC than OC
hansel
10/21/14 2:52pm
Big fish in a shrinking pond
AxelDC
10/21/14 7:11am
I am not in the camp that thinks that teams have "won" their way in to BCS/P5
BYUFam1
10/21/14 7:26am
Not even a little? How can you not be?
Moneycounter
10/21/14 12:48pm
Explain even one of the other teams that got included?
BYUFam1
10/21/14 1:54pm
Let's be clear about one thing, I'm not defending Bronco or suggesting there
cougar_chick1
10/21/14 7:46am
I have been on the fence, but your argument is very well stated. Thanks.
WB Coug
10/21/14 9:03am
NORM CHOW - maybe not Don't fire a winning coach. 90% of the time you do worse
Coogar2
10/21/14 9:27am
Side note: Baylor wasn't much before RG3 and they will be relegated once again
lightmann
10/21/14 11:09am
I know you're talking long term, but 6-1 and ranked #12. So far so good.
Steven Koren
10/21/14 11:43am
RG3 Goes to Washington
AxelDC
10/21/14 1:50pm
Having been a missionary in Texas
teancum
10/21/14 12:53pm
why do the Bronco supporters always insist that the fire Bronco crowd need to
BlueFrog
10/21/14 7:14am
For sure, there are some posts that "insist" that you name names.....
ByuMba90
10/21/14 7:40am
not fine with it. just calling a spade a spade
BlueFrog
10/21/14 8:20am
Your next phone call will be from NAACP or Obama's NSA folks.
ByuMba90
10/21/14 8:50am
Good point, we just need Bronco gone and everythign will be rainbows....
PoopTown LLC
10/21/14 8:02am
Argument ad absurdum
AxelDC
10/21/14 8:06am
Is that how you make decisions in your personal life too?
Bleeding Blue
10/21/14 9:41am
Too impatient and want to win now? Bronco has been here a decade.
RockyBalboa
10/21/14 9:55am
And is one of the winningest coaches in college football......
Bleeding Blue
10/21/14 11:19am
The last few years have been average at best.
RockyBalboa
10/21/14 11:24am
It is unrealistic.
Bleeding Blue
10/21/14 12:31pm
A decade is unrealistic? not in any normal world, except yours I guess
RockyBalboa
10/21/14 1:03pm
No, how good you ThINK BYU is/should be.
Bleeding Blue
10/21/14 1:18pm
I think they should be MUCH better than they have been
RockyBalboa
10/21/14 1:26pm
Agree
Bleeding Blue
10/21/14 1:28pm
That's a good question. I know who I'm not sold on. One thing to keep in mind
cougarick
10/21/14 7:14am
Lance Anderson at Stanford
concolor couguar
10/21/14 7:16am
So train him on the job as a head coach?
BYUFam1
10/21/14 7:32am
You are right Bronco is not getting fired but I am not sure he gets renewed
concolor couguar
10/21/14 8:10am
Wait until his first loss then that whole crowd will be calling for his head
BYUFam1
10/21/14 8:36am
Only bitter Broncoites
concolor couguar
10/21/14 8:40am
Sorry - it will be those that are the immediate gratification crowd with
BYUFam1
10/21/14 8:49am
They already do it now to Dave Rose and Lavell Edwards
concolor couguar
10/21/14 8:53am
Rose's accomplishments are a lot closer to Bronco's than they are Lavell's.
cougarick
10/21/14 9:19am
Just pointing out the attacks on him are there to defend Bronco
concolor couguar
10/21/14 9:30am
It usually starts with somebody saying why can't Bronco be more like Rose, which
cougarick
10/21/14 12:07pm
RE: It usually starts with somebody saying why can't Bronco be more like Rose,
rckrunner
10/21/14 12:14pm
That class just wasn't as good as hyped. Let's just admit that and move on.
cougarick
10/21/14 12:24pm
RE: It usually starts with somebody saying why can't Bronco be more like Rose,
concolor couguar
10/21/14 12:31pm
"3 times the number of teams" is an excuse. Football's lowly crap schools
cougarick
10/21/14 1:01pm
You go look up his record and provide evidence why should I make your argument
concolor couguar
10/21/14 1:29pm
Yeah, what was I thinking singling out a Pacific team that went 6-12 in the WCC
cougarick
10/21/14 1:42pm
It is the nature of the beast. Basketball you can recover from a bad loss
concolor couguar
10/21/14 2:22pm
5 years of failing to meet the standard is definitely a downward trend.
cougarick
10/21/14 3:14pm
RE:Jimmer who put on a show for a couple of seasons (once Rose finally let him)
GSwarriorcoug
10/21/14 1:08pm
Who were the starting guards Jimmer's freshman year?
cougarick
10/21/14 1:20pm
Ben Murdock and Sam Burgess
concolor couguar
10/21/14 1:23pm
Did you bother to look at Murdoch's stats that season?
cougarick
10/21/14 1:37pm
Murdock and Burgess, lets compare the three.
GSwarriorcoug
10/21/14 5:07pm
4 PPG for a starting guard is downright pathetic.
cougarick
10/21/14 5:27pm
Jimmer played 34 min vs Tam, shot a poor %
GSwarriorcoug
10/21/14 6:09pm
for those that want 2J, check out his coaching record
GSwarriorcoug
10/21/14 8:15am
Perfect post to show why letting Bronco go is a bad idea...
PoopTown LLC
10/21/14 9:02am
There could be hundreds of possibililties out there.
Dan2
10/21/14 7:42am
I think we'd be surprised who would be interested in coaching here
SpiffCoug
10/21/14 7:42am
And how many of them would be realistic candidates BYU would consider hiring?
Jhayes
10/21/14 9:55am
This question is getting very old. Like Oxcoug just said
ybyuy
10/21/14 7:50am
Fair point. Remember the energy that Crowton brought with him? It got us an IPF
ByuMba90
10/21/14 8:07am
No one. He is IRREPLACEABLE!!
RockyBalboa
10/21/14 7:58am
So, if he retires ala Urban Meyer, the program should be shuttered?
AxelDC
10/21/14 8:07am
Avoidance.
YSMACK
10/21/14 8:31am
And on a serious note. Holmoe has a file guys
RockyBalboa
10/21/14 8:03am
Having a file of guys who could potentially replace Bronco if he leaves
SoCalCoug
10/21/14 8:05am
Does Holmoe also have a binder of women to go with his file of guys?
ByuMba90
10/21/14 8:09am
Binders full of coaches
AxelDC
10/21/14 8:08am
Oh, Heck....I'm thinking like Axel now!!!!
ByuMba90
10/21/14 8:09am
Yep and now they are all offended and won't consider BYU
BYUFam1
10/21/14 8:57am
Who. No one wants to provide actual names because when they do
YSMACK
10/21/14 8:50am
#Obtuse
RockyBalboa
10/21/14 2:11pm
BYU must really be terrible since no one decent wants to coach there
AxelDC
10/21/14 2:38pm
Ding Ding Ding!
shakarocks
10/21/14 9:54am
Lot of candidates. There are a lot of people that can beat UCF, USU and Nevada
Jam Master J
10/21/14 8:27am
Where are the names?
YSMACK
10/21/14 8:32am
How would I know? I have a full time job, I don't go searching around for
Jam Master J
10/21/14 8:37am
You just got done saying there were lots of people and now you are saying
YSMACK
10/21/14 8:43am
There's no names. Bronco is irreplaceable.
RockyBalboa
10/21/14 8:47am
Avoidance.
YSMACK
10/21/14 8:48am
really he is irreplaceable. There are NO names. NONE!
RockyBalboa
10/21/14 8:53am
Thanks for proving my point.
YSMACK
10/21/14 9:03am
Thanks for ironically proving mine.
RockyBalboa
10/21/14 9:12am
No. Actually, I didn't.
YSMACK
10/21/14 9:14am
It's okay for you to believe that
RockyBalboa
10/21/14 9:32am
Yeah, cause it is true.
YSMACK
10/21/14 1:55pm
You're gifted at being willfully obtuse.
RockyBalboa
10/21/14 2:14pm
And you STILL are incapable of doing it.
YSMACK
10/21/14 2:28pm
I enjoy watching you get more obtuse and stubborn
RockyBalboa
10/21/14 2:44pm
Nooooooo.
YSMACK
10/21/14 2:49pm
I would absolutely agree with you
RockyBalboa
10/21/14 2:51pm
Wow. An "I know you are but what am I" argument.
YSMACK
10/21/14 2:57pm
Irony. Hypocrisy.
RockyBalboa
10/21/14 3:06pm
You just throw words out. You never try to give substantive reply.
YSMACK
10/21/14 3:11pm
I could write a 3 paragraph response
RockyBalboa
10/21/14 3:14pm
No one doubts your inability to say nothing.
YSMACK
10/21/14 3:26pm
Like I said, you provide a great template for that.
RockyBalboa
10/21/14 3:57pm
You need no help with that. I actually try to engage in substance and you refuse
YSMACK
10/21/14 4:02pm
Dang! I was hoping you could teach me
RockyBalboa
10/21/14 4:07pm
So ... another I know you are but what am I argument. Impressive.
YSMACK
10/21/14 4:10pm
YSmack bringing it hard ya'll.
RockyBalboa
10/21/14 4:20pm
On the contrary, you make it easy.
YSMACK
10/21/14 4:23pm
If anyone knows anything about being easy it's you.
RockyBalboa
10/21/14 4:35pm
Oh and bringing up billable hours really hurt. Really, REALLY bad.
YSMACK
10/21/14 2:57pm
Not as bad as it hurt your clients.
RockyBalboa
10/21/14 3:06pm
Doesn't hurt them at all. I don't bill for it. Oh and why are you responding?!
YSMACK
10/21/14 3:13pm
Because I enjoy toying with you.
RockyBalboa
10/21/14 3:14pm
Being toyed with rather.
YSMACK
10/21/14 3:28pm
You've said that plenty yourself.
RockyBalboa
10/21/14 4:06pm
Not really, no. Just make bald assertions though.
YSMACK
10/21/14 4:11pm
Bald? I have healthy curly locks thanks. Albeit some gray though.
RockyBalboa
10/21/14 4:21pm
What is your favorite word again? Obtuse?
YSMACK
10/21/14 4:22pm
If the shoe fits...
RockyBalboa
10/21/14 4:36pm
Quit acting like nursery children, both of you.
Referee
10/21/14 5:05pm
Uh, it's a pretty small list
hansel
10/21/14 12:41pm
You lose credibility when you start suggesting High School coaches could do it..
cougar_chick1
10/21/14 8:35am
They absolutely could. You're completely missing how bad the coaching is. The
Jam Master J
10/21/14 8:39am
Wow. This is what we are dealing with in our fan base.
YSMACK
10/21/14 8:51am
Ever play football YSMACK? Ever play anything competitively?
Jam Master J
10/21/14 9:00am
Tell me the part again where you say HS coaches would be a good replacement.
YSMACK
10/21/14 9:06am
No they absolutely could be an improvement over what Bronco has done. The
Jam Master J
10/21/14 9:44am
You inadvertently hit the nail on the head
shakarocks
10/21/14 10:01am
ummmm... except a high school coach just took Auburn to the NC last ...
COACHdrn
10/21/14 9:12am
Surely you can grasp the difference.
YSMACK
10/21/14 9:19am
give the right high school coach a spring and summer, and sure he could.
COACHdrn
10/21/14 9:24am
Ugh.
YSMACK
10/21/14 9:27am
LOL but....
rckrunner
10/21/14 11:28am
Look at Philly & Auburn's 2012 record and tell me those coaches didn't...
COACHdrn
10/21/14 1:54pm
But Philly and Auburn are inapposite
YSMACK
10/21/14 1:58pm
Art Briles was a successful high school coach, served 2 years as RB coach
rckrunner
10/21/14 11:25am
I think 2J could be a realistic option.
buhlcougar
10/21/14 8:31am
How is a position coach on a sucky staff a better option
Steven Koren
10/21/14 8:39am
He's proven he can handle head coaching responsibilities unlike all the other
buhlcougar
10/21/14 8:41am
Not all, Niumatalolo is currently a HC at a FBS school
Steven Koren
10/21/14 9:25am
Ken Niumatalolo, Kalani Sitake, Robert Anae are realistic. Unrealistic dreams
CocaColaRecovery
10/21/14 8:43am
Those realistic options don't look better to me.
YSMACK
10/21/14 8:52am
Lance Anderson is another that should be on the realistic list.
CocaColaRecovery
10/21/14 9:00am
He does look interesting.
YSMACK
10/21/14 9:08am
I dont know his activity level. He was the head of recruiting for them during a
concolor couguar
10/21/14 9:19am
I used to be in his ward. His family is very active and I
ChurroNieves
10/21/14 9:56am
I would think he is more ready than 2J
Steven Koren
10/21/14 10:40am
Has Niumatalolo done much at Navy that would indicate he would be an
cougar_chick1
10/21/14 9:15am
Stanford's Anderson, not Wisconsin's Anderson
Steven Koren
10/21/14 9:26am
Gotcha! Yes he is an interesting option.
cougar_chick1
10/21/14 9:28am
Niumatalolo is a hard one to judge. It certainly is not an apples to apples
CocaColaRecovery
10/21/14 9:27am
Anyone, at this point.
GOBIGBLUE
10/21/14 8:58am
I like a lot of the current staff. I would hope a few of them are retained if
pinolero
10/21/14 10:00am
People are too hung up on this question.
rckrunner
10/21/14 10:23am
Why fire a winning coach unless you can get someone else who will win more?
Coogar2
10/21/14 2:37pm
RE: Why fire a winning coach unless you can get someone else who will win more?
rckrunner
10/21/14 3:10pm
Bronco was hired out of necessity.... there is no necessity going on right now.
Jhayes
10/21/14 2:38pm
There is no necissity as long as going undefeated is not one of the programs
rckrunner
10/21/14 3:11pm
Interesting - so we need to start our list only with names of people that can
BYUFam1
10/21/14 3:16pm
RE: Interesting - so we need to start our list only with names of people that
rckrunner
10/21/14 3:33pm
If we could talk Gary Andersen out of his remaining 3 years from his K with the
SwampCougar
10/21/14 11:46am
How many times does this moot point need to be discussed?
Cochise Cat
10/21/14 1:23pm
RE: For the Fire Bronco crowd, who do you see replacing him?
webercoug
10/21/14 1:38pm
<< Deleted >>
COACHdrn
10/21/14 2:01pm
<< Deleted >>
COACHdrn
10/21/14 2:19pm
oh brother. it took all of 3 years to find your "good coach." What makes you...
COACHdrn
10/21/14 2:20pm
More like 7-5 against WAC-level competition.
AxelDC
10/21/14 2:41pm
Thanks. Agreed. Bronco will do better if he has everyone's support.
Coogar2
10/21/14 2:44pm
I don't see how fans are even relevant to the discussion
AxelDC
10/21/14 2:52pm
I wonder if similar inane points were made about MAFU 15 years ago on UFN?
vegas cougar
10/21/14 2:39pm
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