preferred walk-on offer at ASU to play QB and a scholarship offer at San Jose St. He lives in Arizona didn’t grow up in a BYU household and is an Oregon ducks fan like his dad and his mom is a Utah fan. Anyway, we’re talking college football, a he nonchalantly asks if I’d ever heard of Ty Detmer and Max Hall. It was at this moment in time I suppressed the fan boy in me and say casually, “Yea, I know who they are.” He goes on to say that they were his coaches in high school and I started probing for stories but he didn’t have much to say.

On the outside I appeared to be cool calm and collected but on the inside…..