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18 Years Later: Beck to Harline becomes (Yor)Mack to Harlan

Psyphile

1:26pm

Bad call by side judge in 6A semi. Come on man.

CougGolf

1:25pm

So weak. Garbage call.

Manti

1:26pm

what was the actual call? My feed cut out

BYUheaven

1:26pm

I want Lehi to win but that's a garbage call against Corner Canyon right there.

Manti

1:25pm

Oh, he got the wind knocked out him. Gotta throw the flag. That was so bad.

CougGolf

1:26pm

I think the SEC and B1G each getting 4 teams in the playoffs is the new normal.

d-coug

1:25pm

Video: How a positive attitude can change everything #byufootball #positivity View

[BYUtv Sports] BYUtv Sports Nation

1:25pm

If you weren't up late after the game you might've missed it

bythenumbers

1:25pm

CB crashing on Chrome for anyone else?

Six Foot Seven

1:24pm

Not for me

LPcoug

1:25pm

Desktop or mobile? Which OS?

El Jefe

1:25pm

This Glasker kid is having a heck of a game ('26 grad from Lehi)

BYUheaven

1:24pm

Tall, fast, great hands.

CougsBeatU

1:25pm

If an SEC team has three losses they've already proven they can't beat the best

Undefeated

1:21pm

Added one last paragraph.

Undefeated

1:26pm

Something in the water in Utah County causing OCs to take forever to get the play in? Lehi just took their 3rd TO of the

foofcoug Wonder what the character limi

1:21pm

And again. Just used the last TO of the 2nd half.

foofcoug

1:26pm

Colorado looking to flip 5-star Bama commit

MissouriCoug18 Starter

1:21pm

POLL: Which would have led to an overall worse outcome for UU?

TheNerd

1:21pm

B only because of they way they're making clowns of themselves

tony

1:23pm

Perusing winsipedia regarding remaining schedule

Gustav

1:14pm

Anyone use Microsoft Fabric?

conetah

1:13pm

The other three Pac schools didn't have a problem joining B12, was Utah's

cowbellcoug

1:13pm

That is certainly part of it

Huge Manatee

1:14pm

Doesn't explain why they suck so much more than the other PAC teams though.

momowagon

1:15pm

Because they put all their hope into a broken QB

WJCougar

1:16pm

yep

Avery

1:15pm

They thought the Big 12 was beneath them....

WJCougar

1:15pm

ASU’s Administration wasn’t thrilled with the idea at first.

BluesBrother

1:17pm

Seem to recall disparaging remarks from their AD about going to Morgantown.

valcorger

1:21pm

They had also put so much stock into how amazing the Pac-12 was and how great

BYUHawk

1:22pm

The PAC12 was unambiguously a better conference academically, and Utah

garyfan

1:24pm

That's definitely part of it, but it's also inflated egos.

BlueFever

1:25pm

How does Jake fix the batted down passes issue? I realize the easy answer is

UNLVcougar

1:13pm

Completely revamp his throwing motion.

foofcoug

1:14pm

If only we had another bye week

Tare

1:16pm

Interior OL stop DL penetration, Roll Retzlaff out of the pocket

tarmstrong

1:14pm

So true, esp in Ute game. Many harsh convos with me & TV on this subject!

Katewot

1:16pm

Yeah not happening...would have to completely change his throwing motion

Lifer

1:14pm

How often did it happen before the Utah game?

Indy Coug

1:15pm

A few times but with the success Utah had with keying on it, I expect others to

Mikey

1:18pm

Not stare down WRs as much before throwing. OL occupying DL’s hands more.

ldssdl

1:16pm

I wondered if Utah specifically targeted this or if their D line was just good

bythenumbers

1:19pm

Just had a thought. If BYU does get to the Fiesta Bowl or better, how cool would it be if Adam Sandler showed up?

BackPacker Intervention Needed

1:12pm

Mika & Jake talking FB players playing Bball. That would be a fun game to watch. Good stuff.

Soupie Grandma Sycamore

1:12pm

That was a fun clip

ldssdl

1:25pm

Jake Hatch on locked on B12 crossover

Heinz57

1:11pm

Tankathon mock today based on current standings gives Utah the 4, 12, and 30

BGRTHNUMEGO

1:09pm

Ghost Pirate LeChuck

1:12pm

POLL: Who will win the Mike Tyson vs Jake Paul fight?

Cougar-Duck Soros-backed

1:07pm

Tyson will always be 100 times the boxer than Jake Paul, but I think he's too old to win this fight.

Cougar-Duck

1:08pm

I hope I'm wrong. I hope Tyson wins in the 1st round

Cougar-Duck

1:10pm

My guess is that Tyson will try to land a shot in the first round or two and

BYUheaven

1:09pm

I want Tyson to win, but they’ll fix it so Paul wins.

CougarGuy84

1:11pm

The rules favor Tyson. Shorter rounds, bigger gloves, etc

JoeExotic

1:17pm

Its true, their D line flinches to draw the Oline - two examples.

Avery

1:05pm

Sincere question: is there a rule against that?

oxcoug

1:09pm

it's very common

SalmonOfCapistrano

1:09pm

they can't simulate the snap, but they can move. Not sure what the restrictions

Garn

1:10pm

As long as they don't cross the line, I think it's fine

El Jefe

1:10pm

yes, but it is a judgement call. If the ref thinks they aren't doing it

Avery

1:10pm

Moving to the side is fine.

JuicyJam

1:16pm

The center moves before the D Lineman points at him to alert the ref he moved.

RGGeemer

1:25pm

Macdizzle brought this up as well.

RexburgCougar

1:10pm

What is Kalani signaling with his hands on top of each other?

tarmstrong

1:10pm

I've been wondering the same thing

SalmonOfCapistrano

1:11pm

defensive delay of game. That is what the penalty should be.

Avery

1:13pm

you learn something new every day. I see that happen *all the time*, but here it

SalmonOfCapistrano

1:15pm

yep, exactly

Avery

1:24pm

I didn't see any movements there that the D can't do, but it looked like both

Ghost of Peanut

1:16pm

I’m stunned…

lbmango

1:05pm

I'm stunned that people care

spidercoug

1:05pm

Probably shouldn't post a video asking for civility and then when your team is guilty of being uncivil, and you don't

P-Boy Squad

1:10pm

The only thing that we can conclude is that they are fine with his actions.

cheezedawg

1:05pm

This is an institution which has enabled bad behavior for decades

Indy Coug

1:08pm

I just don't care anymore... I really don't... their program is trash and now everyone knows it...

Coug

1:10pm

It's really shocking. University presidents just apologize when stuff like this

BYUCougarsFan

1:16pm

I wonder if Deion goes to FSU after the season

RexburgCougar

1:05pm

$63 Million buyout is a lot of money for current FSU coach.

ThreatLevelMidnight

1:09pm

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Cougar86

1:09pm

… or Dallas?

BluesBrother

1:22pm

I think the days of massive coach buyouts are dwindling.

sidsie716

1:24pm

It's so hilarious how much of an SEC shill Paul Finebaum is

TNT

1:04pm

He has to be on their payroll right?

TNT

1:05pm

He doesn't even try to hide it. Biggest conference homer as you will ever find.

oryguncoug

1:05pm

It's wild. Zero objectivity. Like TNT with his david stern hate

TNT

1:06pm

Bigger than Clownzano and PAC 12?

Schrodizzy

1:25pm

I've said it before, he's entirely too ugly to be as arrogant as he is.

foofcoug

1:07pm

Those ears are something else

TNT

1:08pm

As much as the SEC pays him he should have an ear reduction

TNT

1:09pm

He picks up old UHF TV stations from the 70s with them.

foofcoug

1:11pm

Convenient

TNT

1:23pm

A CCG win over Colorado does more for BYU nationally than beating any other XII

Tare

1:02pm

Wish we had them to finish the year. A win in the CCG probably gets us

SLIVER

1:06pm

I'm more worried about a loss.

bythenumbers

1:22pm

That's true. Our best shot at a CFP birth with a CCG loss would be vs CU.

SLIVER

1:23pm

Kozlowski? I probably missed it, but why did he just burn his RS year?

bluehawaiian

1:02pm

I guess he doesn’t want a redshirt

Heath Squashwell

1:04pm

Based on KY's comments, his entry this late was because he was still recovering from injury

Indy Coug

1:04pm

Interesting. Not a lot players stay for 5 years, but I wonder with NIL if he'll

bluehawaiian

1:15pm

Nevermind, I guess thats not the case anymore.

BYUheaven

1:04pm

I think it's still under consideration, but it isn't here yet

Indy Coug

1:07pm

So what happens if AJ decides to go elsewhere, like Mandaquit did?

Indy Coug Loquacious Lummox

1:02pm

KY pulled Demin out of thin air

Ghost Pirate LeChuck

1:04pm

Transfers

allaboutthegainz

1:04pm

IDK but I don’t think Europe has run out of players

Tare

1:06pm

I'd guess there will be a dozen options that we can't even see from here much

oxcoug

1:06pm

With Staton and Burgess, it’s already a pretty good recruiting year.

AF Cougar

1:16pm

RE: Saturday Down South: TTech joins Texas & LSU

MissouriCoug18 Starter

1:01pm

I wish BYU would’ve accepted the penalty and since we recovered the fumble

Magneto

12:58pm

Then BYU would have covered the spread. Talk about a bad beat.

ldssdl

1:01pm

Only to have Lohner block it and then someone runs it back for a TD.

foofcoug

1:01pm

Yup.

momowagon

1:02pm

Yeah, we should have accepted it so we could false start in victory formation

ryebrye

1:05pm

Wouldn't it be enforced with a 10 second runoff? Game over.

momowagon

1:12pm

Since everyone plays an FCS team, what they should do is have the FBS and FCS champions play

Indy Coug Loquacious Lummox

12:58pm

with a championship, there should be ZERO games with FCS and computers should set the schedules with a set of specific

ChinaFan

1:03pm

Mark Harlan better hope Utah retains him as AD, because he'll never be hired at

Dangerous

12:56pm

A big Ute donor will hire him……

Phreddy

12:58pm

All things athletic have markedly improved at USF since he left.

Zooropa

1:00pm

SDSU might be a good fit?!?

BluesBrother

1:24pm

This is how our current winning streak (9) compares to previous streaks:

Norge Coug

12:56pm

i think you meant 2020 not 2019

the_archduke

12:57pm

Correct.

Norge Coug

12:58pm

After watching this and letting all of the post game actions sink in, Utah is dang lucky the fine was only 40K

GangstaLean All-American

12:56pm

Man. Sore losers across the board.

GideonsTrumpet

12:59pm

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JuicyJam

1:11pm

BYU should consider this on their next trick play adventures…

CougarGuy84

12:56pm

"Hear me out - instead of the punter catching the ball directly..."

ryebrye

1:01pm

Looking for 4 tickets to the AZ St. game

ProvoProwler

12:56pm

Why do BYU fans need to keep rallying to charitable causes after playing utah?

yorksama

12:55pm

What's the best way to get GOOD seats to a BYU Big 12 basketball game?

RdF3 Inactive user

12:55pm

Sell your first born.

CougarGuy84

12:56pm

Of course I'm willing to pay good money for them.

RdF3

12:59pm

BM Ryan Smith

willkie40

1:14pm

The Athletic predicts BYU will lose. Loving the lack of respect for motivation!

runnincoug

12:49pm

Tbh, I'm more concerned about this game than I was Utah. Even more so now.

BlueTooth

1:00pm

Something that has been bugging me about the Utah game..

SLIVER

12:48pm

I've had that thought but I think there was another safety who had Ropati

BYU Fan

12:49pm

I don't think so. Watch the replay I put in the OP. One safety over the top and

SLIVER

12:54pm

I could be wrong - that would have been epic!

BYU Fan

12:56pm

Would’ve been very similar to Luke Staleys TD to beat Utah

Hang10

12:49pm

Yes, but with a Taysom-esque hurdle of TWO Utes!

SLIVER

12:52pm

Inches- looks more like a foot or two.

byusage

12:54pm

... But I wouldn't want Utah to get the ball with a minute to spare...

The Dark Knight

12:55pm

With 2 TOs.

foofcoug

12:57pm

Provided BYU holds onto the lead after he scores. How it ended was more certain.

foofcoug

12:56pm

This is true.

SLIVER

12:58pm

I wish he would have completed a flip and landed on his feet and then scored.

idcougarfan

12:58pm

Yeah and would have won me $300 IF I had money on it

dahurt45

1:00pm

It bugs me that he didn't do a Saquon reverse hurdle. If he does that, he walks into the end zone.

WDaddy

1:02pm

Or Billy Blanks in The Last Boyscout.

foofcoug

1:06pm

He was close and it sure would have helped my nerves, but I love it as is.

Ghost of Peanut

1:07pm

That would have given Utes a minute to score. This was better.

zia cougar

1:11pm

And two timeouts

BYU Fan

1:18pm

Anyone wanting to sell (2) tickets to Saturday’s basketball game vs Idaho?

Borg

12:47pm

The game is Saturday.

Cougar Jazz Fan

12:51pm

Yep…oops! Thanks

Borg

1:06pm

I have 2 very high up chair seats I could send your way. Send me a BM.

Niiineteeen84

12:52pm

I'm also looking for 2 seats to Saturday's game, trying to see if I can get them

fredgarvin

12:58pm

Joel Klatt walking back his opinion about the holding. About 19:51.

LSUcougar92

12:44pm

Love it when people can gain perspective with additional information. Harlan,

Captain Stubing

12:48pm

Says different angles change his mind

Hawk Talons

12:48pm

I think he's a good in game announcer. But he's a total homer outside the game.

Adwight

12:48pm

Wonder if Furlong and Bartle will post that snippet since they posted his

Dangerous

12:55pm

POLL: Regarding this Saturday's Rubble in the Rockies rivalry game, what would you most like to see?

NOCAL_YFAN

12:43pm

ESPN projects Egor to go #7 in the draft to the Spurs… Egor + Wemby = Scary

byuchocolatemilk

12:43pm

Please let it be so

CSoul

12:44pm

yeah, he’d enable a Wemy dunk fest with has gravity driving the ball to the basket

BeyondTheMark

12:44pm

He’ll go sooner than seventh

AF Cougar

1:18pm

UHC won this game 4-1

CougarCanuck76

12:42pm

Great win for sure. Carolina is a high volume shooting team generally.

Little Mac

1:04pm

How many games this year (excluding FCS teams) do you think Kalani could have legitimately run up the score

Indy Coug Loquacious Lummox

12:41pm

Just UCF.

Benfica1

12:45pm

Definitely Wyoming (14+) and possibly UCF and Kansas State (7+)

BYU Fan

12:50pm

I don't know about RUTS per se, but it seems opportunities to improve the MOV

ldssdl

12:55pm

It's one thing to not score due to poor play and another thing to not score due to deliberately pulling the plug

Indy Coug

1:00pm

In that case, it seemed that they pulled the plug only for Wyoming, KSU, and UCF

ldssdl

1:11pm

Nice write up on BYU’s defense by ESPN

UNLVcougar

12:40pm

Here's why the Unsportsmanlike penalty on Harlan would not have negated a TD:

momowagon

12:39pm

I don't think that's true if you are on the field of play. Are you saying if a

cougarfann888

12:41pm

If the coach tackled a defender, that would be affecting the play and it would

SoCalCoug

12:43pm

What is the definition of "affecting the play"?

SUAVO

12:47pm

Judgement call by the ref. This ref called it as unsportsmanlike.

momowagon

12:47pm

That's my paraphrase of the principle. I'm not sure what the exact wording is,

SoCalCoug

12:48pm

Hopefully the ref wouldn't call that as unsportsmanlike. That would be another

momowagon

12:45pm

Is that the NCAA rules? It's not a TD in college

stansburycoug

12:42pm

Wasn't there a Steelers coach who tripped a player from the sideline a few years ago?

Skeptical Optimist

12:45pm

There are several different application to dead ball in college

stansburycoug

12:49pm

Tomlin was in the way on the sideline, but didn't touch him

steelerguy99

12:52pm

THis lines up with the rule. The RB in this example is not a non-player. Harlan

momowagon

12:47pm

Harlan and Whit should have been out blocking and impeding would be tacklers ?

stansburycoug

12:50pm

That would have been a different penalty than "Unsportsmanlike conduct".

momowagon

12:53pm

? what penalty would that be? I've reffed up to HS, I'm curious what it is?

stansburycoug

12:55pm

I think the problem here is we've seen the application on defense

stansburycoug

1:06pm

What if he was out there blocking? That doesn't make sense.

GfB

12:42pm

But it does. If he blocked a player involved in the play, that would negate the

SoCalCoug

12:44pm

Well in that case his mere physical presence on the field affects that play. Even as just a distraction.

GfB

12:46pm

That is not the rule.

SoCalCoug

12:46pm

It would be a different penalty than just "Unsportsmanlike Conduct"

SoCalCoug

12:47pm

How do you define "involved" in the play? Was Harlan not involved?

LegitCoug

12:47pm

You could argue that, but you would lose.

SoCalCoug

12:47pm

Huh. Well, kind of a fun thought experiment anyway.

LegitCoug

12:48pm

The Ref who made the call said unsportsmanlike conduct, not something else.

momowagon

12:49pm

Interesting. If that's the case...

LegitCoug

12:44pm

Well I would expect penalties outside of the game for that, IE lifetime bans for

Stopper6700

12:46pm

Because if they interrupt the play that's a different penalty. The ref called

momowagon

12:50pm

That would have been the most Utah way to win

Skeptical Optimist

12:44pm

Taken to an extreme, what if a bunch of students ran onto the field and tackled BYU players to allow a TD by Utah.

KingDave

12:44pm

That would result in negating the play.

SoCalCoug

12:45pm

Yes, because it would be something other than unsportsmanlike.

momowagon

12:51pm

I don't know about that. Do you remember when Utah fans rushed the field during

cougarfan84

12:46pm

That wasn't called as "unsportsmanlike." It was sideline interference. If Harlan

momowagon

12:52pm

So what prevents non-players from disrupting the game?

HuskerFan2

12:46pm

That would be a different penalty, not Unsportsmanlike Conduct.

momowagon

12:54pm

This makes perfect sense. How many times does momowagon have to repeat it?

AT Cougar

1:18pm

If your on the field you would be considered a player in my opinion.

maYbe

12:52pm

Nice opinion! That's not what the rules say.

momowagon

12:55pm

The rule doesn't define a player.

maYbe

12:56pm

Need a rules expert to weigh in here. An administrator five yards into the field

RalphWiggam

12:53pm

The Ref must have concluded that Harlan didn't effect the play, or he would have

momowagon

12:56pm

You keep saying that but do you know what other options he had? If you don't

coug10278

12:57pm

I think it would be an "Unfair Act" which is:

momowagon

1:11pm

I think there likely would have been something else called had Utah scored

goidcougs

1:15pm

The refs have the authority in the rule book to determine for themselves if an

Ghost of Peanut

1:01pm

Chat GPT for the win:

MotorCityCoug

1:24pm

Unfortunately a BYU player didn’t light him up. Thus creating “interference”.

DiamondMo

1:17pm

Oof, we totally stole that game

Brandoblueblood

1:24pm

This seems like an Oregon-esque loophole that could be exploited if true

Brandoblueblood

1:22pm

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