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Dec 2, 2024
12:22:50am
indocoug All-American
Find someone that loves you as much as a few on here love cherrypicking FEI data
But no, BYU's offense was not that high in any of the Arod years. There is a reason that FEI is 6th or lower on the list of methodologies largely accepted by most in the CFB world.

It notoriously has a very flawed strength of schedule system based on team and opponent efficiency ratings, which can create circular dependencies. In other words, they calculate it by considering opponent quality relative to the team's own strength. This leads to inaccurate comparisons between teams with different schedules. So if a team were say, the 65th best team, and they played a whole schedule of teams just as good as they are (ranked 60-75), they could be listed as having a tougher strength of schedule than a if the best team in the country played a whole schedule comprising of the 25th-37th best teams.

It also does not count any offense that occurs in what is arbitrarily determined to be "garbage time". Its creator admits this is retroactively determined by "gut" feeling. In other words, if he feels that a team is dominating enough that the other team cannot win, then any offense after that point in the game is not counted. As BYU is hardly ever in that situation, it skews more in their favor counting more of their scoring. In 2021, BYU's bad defense heavily benefitted the offensive rankings in games such as the Virginia game where BYU scored 69 points, all of which counted due to defense giving up 49 points. Virtually all of their points counted towards their FEI that season, with the exception being Idaho State (FCS game). The model does not count FCS games, regardless of how good the FCS team is.

If you want to consider the FEI, I would recommend using a composite metric where FEI is combined with other methods that are more accepted and acknowledged.

When you do that, we are closer to #28-35 best offense in 2021, #54-66 in 2022, and #72-79 last year.


Keep in mind, 2021 we also had Hall, Puka, and Allgeier. As I have stated in my other posts, those players can outplay Arod's liability by their sheer talent alone. Jaren's ability to be mobile and avoid turnovers covered up a lot in both 2021 and 2022. Similar to how having Hill and Jamaal covered up for a lot in that first 9 win season in 2016.

And again, I hope no one thinks Arod sucks. It is just that he has Kyle Shanahan syndrome. Great when we get breaks and are playing ahead with momentum, or when playing an inferior opponent. But if there is a game where critical game changing calls have to be made, or chess match adjustments created, you can count on him to get too cute, out think himself, and make a decision that puts our kids in a tough position to be successful. This leaves our players having to outplay this handicap. This is the reason that Shanahan has no super bowl rings (screwing the pooch in Atlanta and SF), and why I predict the 49ers will not win a super bowl as long as he calls the plays.


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Let me state, I don't think we should or could fire Arod. We are BYU, we don't fire good coaches to try to be great like some SEC or BIG power. That is not in our DNA. We are 1st to build young men, then 2nd to build/maintain our brand and image. Winning is important, but comes in 3rd. As long as the first 2 are taken care of, we won't fire people or make changes if we are "good enough", usually 8 or more wins. As long as we win 8+ games, Arod will always be "good enough". And if we ever could get a DL like yewtahs, then good enough could be great on the back of our defense.
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