For the smart people, does 11-1 guarantee we play for a conference championship?

Oct 23, 2024
10:28:46am

FrontLineFan All-American

Because of our win over KSU I assume we have a tie breaker over them. However, is there any possible outcome no matter how unlikely, where one loss can keep us out?

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For the smart people, does 11-1 guarantee we play for a conference championship?

FrontLineFan

Oct 23, 10:28am

No. If there’s a three way tie between us, KSU, and ISU, we’re out

RealTaysomHill

Oct 23, 10:29am

Welp, undefeated it is!

FrontLineFan

Oct 23, 10:30am

There are other teams that could join a tie too - Colorado and Cincinnati

ZacSeljaas'Stache

Oct 23, 10:30am

That could be a blessing in disguise if we're 11-1 though. We'd likely get an

ATLCoug2088

Oct 23, 10:32am

Doubt it - committee has historically not punished teams for losing their 13th

RGGeemer

Oct 23, 10:42am

They’ve also never placed a 1-loss P5 team worse than 7th

BYUCLA

Oct 23, 1:49pm

Also true. Just depends on how many 0 and 1 loss teams there are in the P4 this

RGGeemer

Oct 23, 1:59pm

How could there be a 3 way tie if we only have one loss

Lifer

Oct 23, 10:32am

KSU beats ISU. No tiebreaker if we didn’t all play.

shimmy

Oct 23, 10:33am

We’d have the tie breaker over Kansas St.

Superman21

Oct 23, 10:39am

Doesn't matter since we didn't play Iowa State. Head to head doesn't apply in

RGGeemer

Oct 23, 10:43am

So we beat KState, if they beat ISU and we both have 1 loss then KState and ISU

Bryceo19

Oct 23, 11:06am

We would get in over ISU

RGGeemer

Oct 23, 12:05pm

If both of us and ISU have 1 loss we get in over them? How?

Bryceo19

Oct 23, 7:23pm

BYU, KSU, and ISU could all be 8-1. 3-way tie.

RGGeemer

Oct 23, 10:43am

There are special tiebreaker rules for a 3-way tie.

Doogal McCougar

Oct 23, 2:39pm

Why would KSU get on over BYU? BYU has the head to head tie breaker over them

BackPacker

Oct 23, 10:36am

RE: Why would KSU get on over BYU? BYU has the head to head tie breaker over

RogDog118

Oct 23, 10:39am

That's certainly how I've understood it with what many others have been saying

BackPacker

Oct 23, 10:42am

Head to head does not apply if not all tied teams played each other according to

RGGeemer

Oct 23, 10:46am

That’s not how B12 rules work for a 3 way tie. Head to head won’t matter in 3 way between KSU, ISU and BYU.

yapacoug

Oct 23, 10:41am

I think we might make it as the 2nd team in, actually. If K St wins the

RGGeemer

Oct 23, 10:48am

I'm not sure that is the case, but could be wrong. Below is a copy of

UMWolverine

Oct 23, 10:50am

It looks like if KSU beats ISU and we lose to someone on our schedule...

SouthernCoug

Oct 23, 4:12pm

Not quite. K St would win the tiebreaker most likely in the 3-way, and then we

RGGeemer

Oct 23, 4:55pm

It seems according to the rules posted, if the tied teams did not all play

SouthernCoug

Oct 23, 5:58pm

I think we'd be in as the 2nd team after thinking through the scenarios if we

RGGeemer

Oct 23, 10:53am

What? Why answer if you don't know. We are in if 11-1. KSU can't get in over

archie

Oct 23, 11:34am

Head to head doesn’t apply in a multi team tie. Read the rules before you accuse someone of not knowing what they are

RealTaysomHill

Oct 23, 11:40am

We would be in, but so would K St

RGGeemer

Oct 23, 12:06pm

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Blue Ghost

Oct 23, 12:59pm

I dont think that is right.

Zoobieman

Oct 23, 2:26pm

How would we have the H2H tiebreaker with Iowa State?

RealTaysomHill

Oct 23, 2:36pm

Because we beat the #1 team (K St) and ISU lost to them

RGGeemer

Oct 23, 2:41pm

What RG said. . . We have the better record against the best common opponent.

Zoobieman

Oct 23, 2:42pm

That’s not a H2H tiebreaker

RealTaysomHill

Oct 23, 2:49pm

It's the 2-team tiebreaker, which I assume is what he meant.

RGGeemer

Oct 23, 3:14pm

Ah. I read H2H as “head to head,” meaning what happened when we played head to head

RealTaysomHill

Oct 23, 3:19pm

Why?

IronPotato

Oct 23, 3:19pm

How do we know that already?

BYU '80

Oct 23, 4:36pm

TT only has 1 loss, and we don't play them. If they win out, it could keep

LifeLongLakerFan

Oct 23, 10:31am

TT or Cinn is not winning out. Their schedule it too difficult. Only teams

CougarTwins

Oct 23, 10:36am

Not guaranteed, but likely

RGGeemer

Oct 23, 10:41am

lot of "not so smarts" answering a question specifically for "smart people"

fulano

Oct 23, 10:56am

Here are the tiebreaker scenarios for that (would be KSU vs ISU).

jreid191

Oct 23, 10:57am

Not quite true. Your 3-way tie would play out that way and K State would win

RGGeemer

Oct 23, 10:59am

That makes sense as well. I'm so confused. Just win baby!!!

UMWolverine

Oct 23, 11:02am

Just read through it again and it looks like you're probably right. However, I

jreid191

Oct 23, 1:30pm

I think you’re slightly wrong, maybe. IF we lose to Kansas or Houston, then

BYUCLA

Oct 23, 6:08pm

Thank you. That make sense.

UMWolverine

Oct 23, 11:01am

Yes. More teams that are 3-1 need to lose. We have a tiebreaker over KSU

Blue Ghost

Oct 23, 12:41pm

The good news is they will. They all play each other pretty much.

RGGeemer

Oct 23, 12:47pm

That is why we should all be Kansas St fans. Against us, it's like they have 2

Blue Ghost

Oct 23, 1:00pm

Guarantee? No. Almost certain? Yes. More importantly, 11-1 almost guarantees CFP

NYC and Japan

Oct 23, 2:57pm

If your name is the real Taysom Hill your already dilluisonal..... and wrong

cougarmelt

Oct 23, 4:34pm

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