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Oct 23, 2024
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FrontLineFan
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For the smart people, does 11-1 guarantee we play for a conference championship?
Because of our win over KSU I assume we have a tie breaker over them. However, is there any possible outcome no matter how unlikely, where one loss can keep us out?
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If there is a 3-way tie between BYU/KSU/ISU...these two teams will determine who
(BlueKarma, Oct 23, 2024 at 4:18pm)
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For the smart people, does 11-1 guarantee we play for a conference championship?
FrontLineFan
Oct 23, 10:28am
No. If there’s a three way tie between us, KSU, and ISU, we’re out
RealTaysomHill
Oct 23, 10:29am
Welp, undefeated it is!
FrontLineFan
Oct 23, 10:30am
There are other teams that could join a tie too - Colorado and Cincinnati
ZacSeljaas'Stache
Oct 23, 10:30am
That could be a blessing in disguise if we're 11-1 though. We'd likely get an
ATLCoug2088
Oct 23, 10:32am
Doubt it - committee has historically not punished teams for losing their 13th
RGGeemer
Oct 23, 10:42am
They’ve also never placed a 1-loss P5 team worse than 7th
BYUCLA
Oct 23, 1:49pm
Also true. Just depends on how many 0 and 1 loss teams there are in the P4 this
RGGeemer
Oct 23, 1:59pm
How could there be a 3 way tie if we only have one loss
Lifer
Oct 23, 10:32am
KSU beats ISU. No tiebreaker if we didn’t all play.
shimmy
Oct 23, 10:33am
We’d have the tie breaker over Kansas St.
Superman21
Oct 23, 10:39am
Doesn't matter since we didn't play Iowa State. Head to head doesn't apply in
RGGeemer
Oct 23, 10:43am
So we beat KState, if they beat ISU and we both have 1 loss then KState and ISU
Bryceo19
Oct 23, 11:06am
We would get in over ISU
RGGeemer
Oct 23, 12:05pm
If both of us and ISU have 1 loss we get in over them? How?
Bryceo19
Oct 23, 7:23pm
BYU, KSU, and ISU could all be 8-1. 3-way tie.
RGGeemer
Oct 23, 10:43am
There are special tiebreaker rules for a 3-way tie.
Doogal McCougar
Oct 23, 2:39pm
Why would KSU get on over BYU? BYU has the head to head tie breaker over them
BackPacker
Oct 23, 10:36am
RE: Why would KSU get on over BYU? BYU has the head to head tie breaker over
RogDog118
Oct 23, 10:39am
That's certainly how I've understood it with what many others have been saying
BackPacker
Oct 23, 10:42am
Head to head does not apply if not all tied teams played each other according to
RGGeemer
Oct 23, 10:46am
That’s not how B12 rules work for a 3 way tie. Head to head won’t matter in 3 way between KSU, ISU and BYU.
yapacoug
Oct 23, 10:41am
I think we might make it as the 2nd team in, actually. If K St wins the
RGGeemer
Oct 23, 10:48am
I'm not sure that is the case, but could be wrong. Below is a copy of
UMWolverine
Oct 23, 10:50am
It looks like if KSU beats ISU and we lose to someone on our schedule...
SouthernCoug
Oct 23, 4:12pm
Not quite. K St would win the tiebreaker most likely in the 3-way, and then we
RGGeemer
Oct 23, 4:55pm
It seems according to the rules posted, if the tied teams did not all play
SouthernCoug
Oct 23, 5:58pm
I think we'd be in as the 2nd team after thinking through the scenarios if we
RGGeemer
Oct 23, 10:53am
What? Why answer if you don't know. We are in if 11-1. KSU can't get in over
archie
Oct 23, 11:34am
Head to head doesn’t apply in a multi team tie. Read the rules before you accuse someone of not knowing what they are
RealTaysomHill
Oct 23, 11:40am
We would be in, but so would K St
RGGeemer
Oct 23, 12:06pm
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Blue Ghost
Oct 23, 12:59pm
I dont think that is right.
Zoobieman
Oct 23, 2:26pm
How would we have the H2H tiebreaker with Iowa State?
RealTaysomHill
Oct 23, 2:36pm
Because we beat the #1 team (K St) and ISU lost to them
RGGeemer
Oct 23, 2:41pm
What RG said. . . We have the better record against the best common opponent.
Zoobieman
Oct 23, 2:42pm
That’s not a H2H tiebreaker
RealTaysomHill
Oct 23, 2:49pm
It's the 2-team tiebreaker, which I assume is what he meant.
RGGeemer
Oct 23, 3:14pm
Ah. I read H2H as “head to head,” meaning what happened when we played head to head
RealTaysomHill
Oct 23, 3:19pm
Why?
IronPotato
Oct 23, 3:19pm
How do we know that already?
BYU '80
Oct 23, 4:36pm
TT only has 1 loss, and we don't play them. If they win out, it could keep
LifeLongLakerFan
Oct 23, 10:31am
TT or Cinn is not winning out. Their schedule it too difficult. Only teams
CougarTwins
Oct 23, 10:36am
Not guaranteed, but likely
RGGeemer
Oct 23, 10:41am
lot of "not so smarts" answering a question specifically for "smart people"
fulano
Oct 23, 10:56am
Here are the tiebreaker scenarios for that (would be KSU vs ISU).
jreid191
Oct 23, 10:57am
Not quite true. Your 3-way tie would play out that way and K State would win
RGGeemer
Oct 23, 10:59am
That makes sense as well. I'm so confused. Just win baby!!!
UMWolverine
Oct 23, 11:02am
Just read through it again and it looks like you're probably right. However, I
jreid191
Oct 23, 1:30pm
I think you’re slightly wrong, maybe. IF we lose to Kansas or Houston, then
BYUCLA
Oct 23, 6:08pm
Thank you. That make sense.
UMWolverine
Oct 23, 11:01am
Yes. More teams that are 3-1 need to lose. We have a tiebreaker over KSU
Blue Ghost
Oct 23, 12:41pm
The good news is they will. They all play each other pretty much.
RGGeemer
Oct 23, 12:47pm
That is why we should all be Kansas St fans. Against us, it's like they have 2
Blue Ghost
Oct 23, 1:00pm
Guarantee? No. Almost certain? Yes. More importantly, 11-1 almost guarantees CFP
NYC and Japan
Oct 23, 2:57pm
If your name is the real Taysom Hill your already dilluisonal..... and wrong
cougarmelt
Oct 23, 4:34pm
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