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The Big 12 Tiebreak Rules Have to Change

Greenville_Cougar

5:40am

I would rather have lost anther game and been out awhile ago than this way.

IronPotato

4:49am

Not me. It was super fun to be relevant in November.

Ozymandias

5:04am

Problem is we weren’t relevant once the first loss came.

ordinary tri guy

5:39am

I was happy we did so well.

Blue Heart

5:18am

Today I learned that BYU has had eight 10-win seasons since Utah started their

HouseDeeking

4:17am

CFP committee makes my blood boil. Here’s the thing. I get it that BYU

Lefty24

3:49am

Ranking Tulane higher last week is the biggest joke.

Yukon

5:17am

I think Arods a good OC but my biggest criticism - should’ve recruited better

Rhubarb

2:48am

If he can make the same leap type of leap again this offseason...

rtNelson

3:35am

Watching a slow A-Rod drive.

BigHouse Coug

2:44am

Yikes, Nick Howell/ UNM defense just got torched for 469 yds passing by a QB

Das_Countach

2:27am

Nick Howell - the gift that keeps on giving (up yards and TDs). Tis the season.

Emmett Fitz-Hume

2:41am

You can take the Bronco out of a defense, but you can't take the Nick Howell

HouseDeeking

3:40am

They will be fine. They overachieved for a first year at a terrible program

Jericho

3:57am

It’s wild that Malzahn and Chip Kelly both gave up HC gigs to go back to OC

RenoCoug

2:17am

The season is over

DodgerCoug

2:17am

GW pointed out post game that if ASU loses in CCG that would very likely be our

Countcougula

2:51am

Anyone else see Ryder Lyons there tonight? Thought I saw him in the background

Tuskaloosa Cougar

2:14am

SEC and Big Ten have too much influence and it’s going to destroy the sport

DodgerCoug

2:11am

Indiana is a prime example- they have played one ranked team and lost easily

acougfan

2:13am

We need to figure out how to fight back

VenomFarmer

3:31am

Have to beat them in the CFP

thewaterboy

3:55am

It's ESPN

IronPotato

4:09am

Iowa State with their first and only 10 win season in their program's history

acougfan

2:08am

They had a crazy come-from-behind win vs UCF at home. A late comeback win at...

COACHdrn

2:11am

So what was the thinking behind going for that last TD instead of kicking a FG?

spoxjox

2:07am

Just running out clock - didn’t need any style points

Jersey hunter

2:13am

We were only up by six. Not making the TD might give them the chance to score a

spoxjox

2:17am

It was third down, no? We didn’t go for it on fourth that drive

chilawcoug

2:19am

I thought you meant the end of game 4th down

Jersey hunter

2:22am

I thought it was fourth down and a silly gamble.

BigHouse Coug

2:47am

BYU's combined Bowl revenue from bowl games in Independence was probably around

HeismanTy

2:04am

Why couldn’t Utah have finished off Iowa St last week? They had it!

andrewg3

1:59am

It’s Utah and they suck

BaseCoug

2:07am

Didn’t want to do anything to help BYU

Jersey hunter

2:14am

A I feel like we’ve only had a few injuries.

Revolution

1:55am

We definitely were fortunate this year with injuries

acougfan

1:58am

Keim went down

haYnCoug

2:04am

10-2 should absolutely be good enough to get a team into a championship game and

andrewg3

1:54am

Completely agree

Jericho

1:55am

Lots of divisions are unequal. Just look at Big 10 and the Pac-12 over the years

sportsbro

2:02am

Who knows, maybe some kind of pod system.

TerpCoug

2:06am

We would have been in the same division as ASU and would be in the same spot

nwcat

2:04am

Until like the 4 best teams in the conference are in one division

Rhubarb

2:21am

It’s 7-2 that matters and it will be very rare indeed

CasualFan

4:35am

POLL: What was your favorite game of the season?

DanSmith

1:53am

I enjoyed watching KSU the most. I enjoyed the outcome of Utah the most.

Gorgias

2:25am

Be prepared to watch this team lose 5-6 games next year.

royal_blue

1:49am

This kind of reverse psychology doesn’t repeat from year to year I’m afraid

franklyvulgar

1:51am

I heard that last year.

andrewg3

1:51am

That’s what you said this summer. You were wrong then and you’re wrong now

Socrates Johnson

1:52am

I'll take each game as it comes

Belboz

1:54am

Bet against Kalani as the underdog at your own risk

vagabonder

2:03am

RE: Bet against Kalani as the underdog at your own risk

Shore10

4:54am

8-5 would be a nice floor in a P5

puntersarepeople

2:12am

If there's anything we're prepared for, it's to see you're trashing them consistently whether winning OR losing

CLCougar

4:52am

Why? What does "preparing" for that mean or do for me? I don't think I will

The Dark Knight

5:08am

Thoughts on Jojo Philips?

sportsbro

1:47am

He is gonna be good

Garn

1:49am

He’s young. In college guys generally get better and not just older. Lots of

tkh9

1:49am

I have a sneaking suspicion Chase isn't going to like his projection NFL draft

HeismanTy

1:49am

I'm hoping that is the case. Chase stats aren't eye popping, so there's a...

sportsbro

1:52am

If that is the reason to come back, would you want to come back to an offense

Garn

1:53am

His stats are decent, but I assume he'd be a 6th or 7th round pick...

sportsbro

1:57am

I agree

Garn

2:07am

I want the best for Chase, but I don't know if entering the draft is the right

Jericho

1:52am

NIL in football is still nowhere close to NFL contracts. Most rookie contacts

Stopper6700

1:59am

lol you think chase is getting those contracts?

chilawcoug

2:07am

lol, duh. That is if you GET a contract and stay in the league

Jericho

2:10am

At Chase’s age, it’s not reasonable to expect any significant leaps in

StantonMac

2:12am

I hope you are right

Garn

1:52am

huge upside. i see him getting better and more reliable

mindzeYe

1:49am

Very raw talent. Maybe just needs more time.

The Y's Insider

1:50am

Can't pin that ASU game winner on him.

Jericho

1:50am

Can thank him for catching it.

AZcougLawyer

1:55am

I think he’s only been playing football for just a few years. Was mainly a bball

Das_Countach

1:52am

Good to know. Hopefully he makes a big improvement next year.

sportsbro

1:54am

He was a basketball player until he was a SR in high school

puntersarepeople

1:52am

I like him and will be a big contributor next year, esp if Roberts leaves. They

Blew

1:58am

He’s new to football and will improve

RenoCoug

2:04am

I’m just glad the honor code office hasn’t made him cut his great hair

RenoCoug

2:07am

I like him. He and Marion are going to crush it next year

Heath Squashwell

4:17am

The tempo MUST improve next year. That is my #1 criticism.

The Y's Insider

1:44am

Why?

Cosmo Kramer

1:45am

The offense does much better in rhythm and is very dependent on momentum, both

vagabonder

1:46am

I’d rank clock management improvement above tempo.

tkh9

1:45am

The increase in commercials has really affected the game for many teams. It has

Q-grr

1:50am

But they were 10-2

acougfan

1:45am

Defensive coordinators tend to like slow offenses more than OCs

puntersarepeople

1:46am

Sometimes tempo is great but miss a couple passes and it’s 3 and out

Blew

1:50am

Arod said JR plays his best in a 2 min O tempo

mindzeYe

1:50am

He also said you can’t play the two minute offense all game.

tkh9

1:52am

true

mindzeYe

1:54am

ARod has not put 3 QBs in the nfl. He was not the OC for Zach. He didn’t recruit

Garn

1:40am

Slovis didn't even fit his system

acougfan

1:41am

Kudos to you for celebrating a 10-win season by doing your best to discredit the

tkh9

1:42am

Thank you. Your ability to polish the turd of the exceptional offensive

Garn

1:46am

Our offense is 45th. We can’t go .500 with a 45th offense? lol

chilawcoug

1:54am

Right now we are 54th and nothing to brag about.

BigHouse Coug

2:08am

54th on what measure?

chilawcoug

2:13am

Total offense.

BigHouse Coug

2:15am

Oh heavens please no. Please don’t ever use total offense.

chilawcoug

2:17am

Please do tell what you go by then.

BigHouse Coug

2:20am

I use FEI. F+ is also a good option.

chilawcoug

2:24am

Either way I think it's reasonable for us to expect to do much better.

BigHouse Coug

2:29am

Maybe. I think there’s definitely room to improve. But objectively, ARod is the

chilawcoug

2:32am

Hard to celebrate 10-2 when BYU is 12-0 w/ a better OC

Das_Countach

1:48am

Is the better OC is the room with you now?

chilawcoug

1:54am

No.. need to find a legit p4 OC. Arod was a budget independence era hire

Das_Countach

2:04am

No it isn’t. It’s actually really really easy.

Socrates Johnson

1:57am

Easy for fans that are content w/ mediocrity

Das_Countach

2:03am

lol. 10-2 in the second year in a P4 is not mediocrity. Too bad you can’t enjoy

Ozymandias

3:29am

With better OC, we are in the CCG. We will never be elite with Arod. He is a

indocoug

1:53am

4-8 or 5-7 with the 45th ranked offense? That would be sad, indeed.

chilawcoug

2:01am

Are you looking at 2020's offense against a high school schedule? We played one

indocoug

2:15am

No. 2021. Surprised, given how condescending you have been across many threads

chilawcoug

2:17am

2021 We had the 28th ranked offense against the 54th strongest schedule.

indocoug

2:43am

What measure are you using?

chilawcoug

2:44am

Ben Criddle is pretty adamant Arod was OC in 2020 FWIW

puntersarepeople

1:42am

He called most of the plays, wasn’t technically OC, was QB coach, not sure how

1:48am

Something something John Beck while pretending no other QB in America gets

chilawcoug

2:03am

Wut

LaVellIfIKnow

1:44am

I didn't think it could happen, but we've passed Eagles fans in negativity

Belboz

1:45am

Yeah he was only the QB coach for Zach. Def shouldn’t get any credit.

chilawcoug

1:54am

John Beck was Zach’s QB coach.

Garn

1:56am

lol he spent 10x the time that John Beck did. But it does conveniently fit the

chilawcoug

1:59am

The actual amount of time of ARod vs Beck is 20-1, Beck is a great technical

2:03am

John Beck had much more to do with Zach's development than ARod

acougfan

1:56am

You have no idea and that contradicts Zach’s own comments about ARod.

Socrates Johnson

1:58am

But it conveniently fits the narrative

chilawcoug

1:58am

Believe what you want

acougfan

1:59am

I can see you’re taking your own advice, facts (like Zach’s own statements) be

Socrates Johnson

2:01am

ADS (ARod delusion syndrome)

Socrates Johnson

1:57am

I have to agree with Greg - 10-2 was just who this team is

Zip

1:40am

100% agree - we weren’t going to be perfect in every clutch situation all year

TouchdownCougars

1:46am

Great player leadership doesn’t come out flat after your first lose.

Blue for Life

1:52am

And now Les goes mostly dormant until September- 9 months

franklyvulgar

1:39am

Would be great if they could find a useful thing for LES outside of football and

Powerbait DPM

1:41am

Ryan could use it for NHL Stadium series games

TouchdownCougars

1:49am

They won’t, and it’s why public funds should never be used for NFL stadiums

BaseCoug

1:55am

Could it be used for tunnel singing?

Cosmo Kramer

1:47am

And what’s Stadium of Fire? Chopped liver??

andrewg3

1:52am

2025 ASU will look similar to 2024 Zona

machete

1:39am

Seems like u of a guys hoping rather than actual sources

cougarfann888

1:40am

Jason Scheer’s basically the guy who broke the Pac12 implosion— if hes reporting

Das_Countach

1:42am

I wouldn’t be surprised if Leavitt is getting looks from Oregon and their Santa

Das_Countach

1:41am

Losing 4 straight to Michigan will do that to you.

TerpCoug

1:48am

I'd be shocked if that happened. If it does he owes Skattebo a boat load of

Oompabluepaw

2:08am

I’m calling on President Biden to declare war on the state of Kansas.

LaVellIfIKnow

1:38am

RE: I’m calling on President Biden to declare war on the state of Kansas

Cosmo Kramer

1:40am

Good luck biden is MIA

Ten_Hour_Drives

1:43am

Lassiter all bur disappeared the last 3 games.

The Y's Insider

1:34am

It felt like he dropped too many at the end of the season- He will be legend

acougfan

1:36am

Had some unbelievable catches and drops this year 😳

Zip

1:37am

Two point conversion vs ASU. A few key plays.

BlackBart

1:37am

Your boss told me the same about you these past three weeks. Good thing he

BlackBart

1:38am

Very weird comment. LOL

The Y's Insider

1:40am

He and Retzlaff seem to be hot/cold w/ each other

Das_Countach

1:39am

Yeah, been that way all year. But way more cold than hot lately.

The Y's Insider

1:40am

Agree… I think that’s what’s causing his reduced production

Das_Countach

1:46am

The number of huddles breaking at the play clock 10 second mark was infuriating

Ten_Hour_Drives

1:34am

I think it was part of the plan. Don’t let defense adjust

Powerbait DPM

1:36am

Sounds like a stupid arod tactic

Ten_Hour_Drives

1:38am

He has a lot of those. Line up and play ball

Garn

1:41am

Except when we wanted to milk the clock.

Cosmo Kramer

1:36am

Drove me crazy

acougfan

1:36am

Does BYU match USUs likely offer to JH?

Ten_Hour_Drives

1:33am

Yes, it just depends on if he wants to be a head coach.

cougarfann888

1:33am

His stents say no

Ten_Hour_Drives

1:34am

I would say if Weber state had matched byu financially

cougarfann888

1:36am

I really can’t see Hill taking that job, especially w/ how much improvement he’s

Das_Countach

1:35am

I would not be surprised if Holmoe said “go get an offer so I can pay you”

Powerbait DPM

1:36am

Agree. Be awkward if he took the job lol

Ten_Hour_Drives

1:44am

Is it guaranteed to be the Rental Car bowl, or the Diabetes bowl?

Cosmo Kramer

1:30am

Probably the soggy newspaper bowl

Ten_Hour_Drives

1:45am

From projected #13 in preseason to tied for 1st in the conference. We blew

SUAVO

1:28am

And we blew

ballen

1:31am

Tied for 3rd.

The Y's Insider

1:31am

RE: From projected #13 in preseason to tied for 1st in the conference. We blew

Cosmo Kramer

1:32am

Yes but we should fire our OC

Socrates Johnson

1:33am

I don't think that, but he needs to be better

acougfan

1:37am

Is it possible for three Big12 teams to go 9-0 in conf with the way scheduling

Mitty

1:27am

Probably not

Cosmo Kramer

1:34am

Just off the top of my head I think byu, colorado and Iowa state could have this

cougarfann888

1:42am

Could’ve happened in the Big Ten this year with Oregon, Indiana, and Penn State.

Yukon

4:51am

The Alamo Bowl has an 8 million dollar payout, Pop-Tart bowl 6 million payout.

HeismanTy

1:26am

It all gets split by the big xii though

Huge Manatee

1:27am

for sure, but better than splitting 800,000K with the MWC

HeismanTy

1:28am

I believe a big time bowl is 20 million these days, correct?

Bob Vance

1:27am

I don't see any payouts that much.

BigHouse Coug

1:30am

no, the highest last year was 12 million

HeismanTy

1:30am

Is that total or per team?

Bob Vance

1:36am

thats total 6 per team...for the semi final

HeismanTy

1:41am

It’s $4M per playoff team plus $3M for expenses for the first two rounds and $6M for the last two rounds.

Cougar Jazz Fan

1:40am

It all goes to the conference. It's not like independent years where

cougarfann888

1:28am

I know, we also have 9 bowl eligible teams.

HeismanTy

1:33am

Since Colorado and asu are tied into pac bowls does pac still

cougarfann888

1:37am

also the payouts for the bowls we played in was like 500,000k

HeismanTy

1:58am

Are the $$$ split evenly, or do the participating teams get a greater share?

Emmett Fitz-Hume

2:44am

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