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The season isn’t over

Idahoancoug91

9:17am

Do we think Jake is hurt?

Blue Heart

9:17am

I’m assuming Boise passes us up now. Assuming we win out, there is a chance

Mr. Rumsfield

9:17am

No we don’t pass an undefeated BSU team

SV72 Sale

9:18am

They aren’t undefeated.

AZPTCOUG

9:18am

Boise State is not undefeated

2FarGone

9:19am

If BYU, Colorado or Arizona State win out (thus winning the champ game, too), they will jump Boise State

2FarGone

9:18am

My guess is that we will see a significant tumble in the rankings. Maybe 15th or 16th, Colorado will see a significant

Coug

9:18am

3 B12 teams control their own destiny, right?

SV72 Sale

9:16am

BYU, Colorado, and Arizona State (I think)

2FarGone

9:17am

2 of those are getting better game by game.

Crazy Joe Davola

9:17am

So I make breakfast every day. This morning I thought I would change things

BYULAWGUY

9:16am

Here is a song about eating pie for breakfast for your morning enjoyment

BYULAWGUY

9:17am

Your kids are crazy. A great thing about thanksgiving is eating pie for

Russell Feathers

9:17am

The only thing that helps is Utah is on a 6-game losing streak, almost certainly headed for 8, then a HC change

byuTX mutual friends

9:15am

Wasn’t AJ suppose to be at the game? Haven’t heard anything about that.

Tuskaloosa Cougar

9:14am

He was. Not a great game for him to be at

Chefcurry

9:18am

A couple of thoughts from last night:

HRCougar

9:14am

We’re 0-3 lifetime vs Kansas. And they’re a basketball school.

Magneto

9:15am

They have the record they do because they are a bad team, but you can lose

bluecougar1985

9:19am

Which 2 would you start? Ceedee, Flowers, Jennings, Mooney?

UnoDoctor

9:13am

The Sun came up today

Blue Heart

9:13am

Because Arod isn't in charge of that.

ryebrye

9:17am

RE: Because Arod isn't in charge of that.

UnoDoctor

9:18am

Both BYU and ASU are playing for the right to play for the championship on Saturday

2FarGone No One of Consequence

9:13am

What a dream! First, Cosmo nearly got decapitated by a golf

TunaOne

9:13am

"Lone and Dreary World"? What exactly am I missing here?

CommodoreCoug

9:13am

Didn't Adam and Eve go to the east of Eden? So, Mizzou, right?

2FarGone

9:14am

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9:12am

Grateful for 9-1, still not sure how good this team is.

Qhall All-American

9:12am

9-1 good

ledfoot

9:17am

Looking for BYU @ASU tickets…anyone have extras they are selling? Appreciate it.

COUGZ Bernard4Heisman

9:09am

Looking for 2 as well

GFCougar

9:19am

It’s funny how emotionally tied to the team we can get. I woke up to pee at

Polecat

9:06am

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9:05am

Perspective...

Adrielle Board Misanthrope

9:04am

BYU’s defense played great considering all the misdirection crap Grimes tried to

Magneto

9:04am

Also... Tyler Batty - STOP WITH THE STUPID FLOPPING! You're better than that, act like it. You look like a fool and it

foofcoug Wonder what the character limi

9:04am

Yeah that was pretty bad.

westsidecoug

9:04am

He should be flagged for u sportsmanlike conduct.

BYUnerd

9:06am

He would make a world class soccer player! Really pathetic imo-

acougfan

9:07am

Yep. That’s embarrassing. He is. Better than that.

ybecausethatswhy

9:18am

Who was Jake throwing the fade to? I know it was really off target, but the

VACougMD

9:01am

Taase

foofcoug

9:02am

I was really bummed the TE didn't even try to break that up

2FarGone

9:02am

Where Jake put it Ta'ase didn't even have a chance

coug10278

9:05am

He also didn't even try

2FarGone

9:06am

See westsidecoug below

coug10278

9:09am

*Didn’t have a chance to catch it. Absolutely had a chance to at least make a

VACougMD

9:10am

He was open and Jake under threw ot

puntersarepeople

9:06am

he wasn't open - horrible play call and horrible decision to throw it

OGSuperfan

9:09am

Lot to ask of a TE not know for catching that type of ball and placement was 🤬

coug10278

9:04am

I’m not even asking him to successfully break it up. But maybe at least make a

VACougMD

9:05am

That’s not how that route works

stonecougar

9:04am

I know how the route works. But the ball was obviously immediately off target,

VACougMD

9:06am

It was such a bad throw I don't think it was really even physically possible for

westsidecoug

9:05am

The Kansas guy

cajuncoug

9:06am

We need all the Mormons in Maricopa county to show us Saturday. Hopefully

Magneto

9:01am

I’ll be there with my fam. Driving from SoCal.

Idacoug

9:02am

It's ASU's Homecoming game. They will be there, at least for two quarters

2FarGone

9:03am

There will be a lot there, but there will also be a good number of them

Crowd Factor

9:04am

My son and I will be there. Huge game.

TunaNoCrust

9:14am

If BYU can hold to 1 regular season loss, it’s always better to have it

Crowd Factor

9:01am

And prepare mentally for the games so you only lose when the other team is

bluecougar1985

9:02am

It's also better to have the loss OOC.

maYbe

9:05am

It will feel to the Utah fans as if they are there.

Tuskaloosa Cougar

9:12am

So two former PAC 12 teams might be in the championship game

Kolobrdm

9:01am

Dallin Leavitt will be at the ASU game front row in USU gear.

Magneto

8:59am

His actual USU jersey with an ASU hat

SV72 Sale

9:15am

Zero urgency from the O last night. Tried to burn clock and possession.

arizonacougarfan

8:59am

Their plan didn’t work. It was the correct plan but they could not finish drives

Idacoug

8:59am

We shouldn't burn clock until we are up by at least two scores

2FarGone

8:59am

Wrong. Yiu don’t want to give Kansas the ball. Byu just couldn’t execute on

Idacoug

9:00am

A coach should know that their team has execution problems and not put them in that scenario at all

2FarGone

9:02am

Our offense has executed. We were 9-0. It was the right plan of attack and

Idacoug

9:04am

The possession game puts so much pressure on the offense and defense. Every

VACougMD

9:02am

Remember Utah made the CC game with like a 3 way tiebreaker just a few years

Magneto

8:58am

POLL: What has the nature of our final three games told you more? (UCF, UU, KU). Sorry I'm just giving you two options. I'm looking for how you lean.

SinkingQuffa Intervention Needed

8:58am

Yikes...I hope it's option 1

coug10278

9:00am

That the rivalry game needs to be at the end of the season or before a bye

2FarGone

9:01am

Even if we don’t implode. Winning on the road at ASU is going to be tough.

ballen

9:01am

That's very true. It's either a great or a terrible opportunity for the team.

SinkingQuffa

9:07am

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8:58am

Just my observation don’t shoot me

stonecougar

8:58am

RE: Just my observation don’t shoot me

2FarGone

8:59am

It's just not gonna happen 10 games in.

GfB

9:00am

Nick Saban did it in the SEC championship game and CFP final. Can’t be afraid

orrin7

9:01am

I actually think Gerry was a waste of a scholarship- the guy hasn't played in

acougfan

9:01am

Very good is how very good plays

stonecougar

9:03am

Jake had a poor night, but really has played well most of the season

acougfan

9:05am

He sure did.

stonecougar

9:18am

We may see Gerry this season. Retz running the ball is risky. Easy for him to get dinged up.

SaturdaySpecialDay

9:10am

We need Houston to lose next week to take away any chance of a bowl game by

Magneto

8:57am

It's sad that we have to worry about 3-6 and 4-6 teams.

COACHdrn

9:06am

The B12 madness isn’t over. Kansas plays Colorado and Zona plays ASU still.

Magneto

8:57am

We need massive help from both.

Tuskaloosa Cougar

8:58am

And BYU plays an ASU team currently on fire

SV72 Sale

8:58am

Kansas just beat a 9-0 BYU team that was on fire too. What’s your point?

Magneto

9:00am

And ISU

Kolobrdm

9:02am

I’m not sure we were on fire. I think we were more playing with fire as of late.

Tuskaloosa Cougar

9:07am

I was just supporting your statement that the B12 madness isn”t over

SV72 Sale

9:08am

No way Kansas beats Colorado.

Dark Forest Green

9:18am

BYU has converted 38 3rd downs all season. They have had 119 opportunities. Forget the poor 32% conversion rate. That's

foofcoug Wonder what the character limi

8:56am

Lack of 1st down productivity is the biggest reason.

PhilPete

8:57am

We take a lot of chances with high risk plays on first down

2FarGone

8:58am

And then we get predictable on 2nd down which leads to 3rd & 7+.

foofcoug

8:59am

ARod has said he doesn't worry about 3rd down conversion rates- one of many

acougfan

8:59am

ARod with a little introspection:

byuTX

9:00am

When he 1st said it, I thought he must be joking- it truly is mind boggling

acougfan

9:02am

He also said “stats are for losers”. The gif above fits

byuTX

9:06am

Arod fails hard at things like this with some frequency

cajuncoug

9:02am

The main reason is that ARod is impatient and takes too many shots downfield on

AeroCoug

9:04am

I hate fades. They rarely work for any team unless you have a Gronk, Moss,

ballen

8:56am

The placement of the throw was the issue. Moss wouldn't have caught that.

coug10278

8:57am

Yeah, but the other option is often a pass sailed over the WRs head. I think it

ballen

8:59am

Yeah, they should be used very sparingly. You gotta have the right personnel.

runnincoug

8:57am

There is a reason the NFL has moved away from it.

BYUtka

9:01am

The key is to get a mismatch and execute the throw perfectly. We haven't had either. For us it's a low percentage play

SaturdaySpecialDay

9:11am

Based on how we’ve executed the fade in real games this year, I have a hard time believing we’re nailing it in practice

Spiff

9:15am

Who wins the tiebreaker if

McMax

8:55am

Asu and ISU

volleyjiver

8:57am

Gotta say, that was the weakest crowd I’ve ever experienced at LES.

bornbyu93

8:55am

LES deserved better than the offense gave them.

acougfan

8:56am

Yeah no doubt. But I could also argue that a team that’s 9-0 with a recent win

bornbyu93

8:59am

IDK what you are talking about. The crowd, unlike the team, showed up.

BYUtka

9:06am

Crowd feeds off the team. It was fine from my POV. But, the team's bonehead

LV Mike

8:57am

For me, it was a combo of the cold, the countless mistakes, and long drawn out

westsidecoug

8:58am

It was pretty normal imo. A few played killed the energy. I mean 13 points....

GfB

8:59am

It was still 100x better than the product on the field. Last night, that team

BYUtka

9:03am

You’ve apparently missed a lot of (much worse) games

cajuncoug

9:18am

The focus is on how bad the offense was. The defense against Kansas was A+. That

Idacoug

8:53am

1st and 2nd down was A+. 3rd down was a C+

HimmerFredette

8:54am

Kansas #4 in Nation in 3rd down conversion. Veteran playmakers. Held them to 242

Idacoug

8:56am

We held them to 17 points, and 10 without the lucky bounce. D was stellar.

LifeLongLakerFan

8:58am

Yep - ARod should resign

acougfan

8:55am

RE: Yep - ARod should resign

foofcoug

8:57am

Not calling for that. I have my issues with him. But we are 9-1.

Idacoug

8:57am

We had some success with Tuiaki as well. Winning hides many issues.

BYUtka

9:08am

Yep, I do think he is the blame for this one. But there have been some games he

Tuskaloosa Cougar

9:09am

Honestly it makes the loss sting that much worse that defense made it easy for

Tuskaloosa Cougar

8:55am

I am now a HUGE Jayhawk fan!

HimmerFredette

8:53am

It will be a shootout.

Idacoug

8:54am

Will you feel differently if Colorado also loses to Kansas?

IronPotato

8:52am

I’d rather not play them in the Alamo bowl

byuTX

8:53am

No. This was a game lost by the QB and OC, not won by KU.

88Coug

8:54am

No. We lost for all the wrong reasons. KU was playing better because

LifeLongLakerFan

8:56am

You never know. Maybe Kansas beats Colorado next week for us.

Magneto

8:52am

You know Kansas is relishing the idea of beating Iowa State, BYU and Colorado on successive weeks

2FarGone

8:54am

Kansas isn’t that good.

Lifi

8:54am

all evidence to the contrary

2FarGone

8:54am

No, they’re not that good. It makes BYU fans feel better to think that…

NorCal_Coug

9:14am

Look at their stats. Look who they beat.

2FarGone

9:15am

Not good on defense.

Idacoug

9:02am

The Kansas loss was all on the offense. 100% on the offense.

Lifi

8:52am

Multiple players talked about a bad week of practice. Recipe for a game like

westsidecoug

8:54am

Not at all. Let's break down why we lost:

runnincoug

8:56am

I agree with your points. But the offense is still the biggest issue. Your "not

westsidecoug

9:02am

Fair. I probably overstated it. However I also think it's not accurate to blame

runnincoug

9:15am

I’m as ticked as anyone about last night, but the silver lining from the game is

Duke Silver

8:51am

The defense is legit and deserves respect. It is not in any way fool's gold or

westsidecoug

8:53am

The problem is not and hasn’t ever been the D.

Blue Print

8:53am

Defense needs to come out ready to play. Need to get off field in 3rd and long.

Magneto

8:54am

No silver lining for me. The odds of playing in a meaningless bowl game are now

YbeatsU

8:55am

Offense limiting their possessions had a lot to do with that.

NorCal_Coug

8:56am

I didn’t think Kansas was playing to win. I also don’t think BYU was either.

Magneto

8:51am

Joel Klatt last night

fredetteaboutit13

8:51am

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8:51am

Disappointed in last night but this season is still so much beyond expectations that I’m happy. You could tell early on

cheezedawg Properly rated

8:49am

Coulda been epic

Zip

8:52am

POLL: Will BYU play in the CCG?

Carnac

8:48am

TBD

coug10278

8:49am

I just saw a video of the fade for the first time. What. The?

HRCougar

8:47am

He threw 2 of those last week too. He doesn't have the touch for that throw.

ochobeeguy

8:50am

What gave the coaches confidence to call the plays after it getting picked at UT

johnnybyu

8:50am

My main concern is that with 50 seconds and two timeouts from the 4 yard line

2FarGone

8:50am

Reminded me too much of another fade turned int in the end zone.

Eddie

8:50am

Jake probably felt stress, urgency to put points on the board and tried to do

Polecat

8:50am

He may the GOAT of throwing picks from inside the 3 yard line

byuTX

8:52am

Did you miss the same mistake last game? Most frustrating aspect for me was this

Mr. Scoobs

8:55am

How does the tiebreaker work if BYU were to lose to ASU and beat UH, if ASU

rainorsnow

8:45am

I think we lose the head to head tie breaker with ASU in that scenario.

LifeLongLakerFan

8:46am

How does that work in a three-way tie?

rainorsnow

8:46am

We need to win. The tiebreaker will not help us.

2FarGone

8:46am

I think honestly….byu needs to beat asu and can still lose to Houston. Can’t

Idacoug

8:46am

Basically agree. Unless ASU and ISU both lose another game

Rexy Coug

8:48am

BYU loses nearly all tiebreakers to both ASU and Iowa St with a loss to ASU

Nikomedes

8:49am

On the broadcast they said a BYU win vs Kansas clinches a CCG for BYU.

ochobeeguy

8:52am

That wasn't true at all. Our chances are very slim with 2 conf. Losses

volleyjiver

9:00am

The most frustrating thing about the game was our lack of urgency/tempo when we were behind. BYU's

BYUnerd All-American

8:44am

Looked like we were thinking about leaving too much on the clock — perhaps even more than KU was. Not wise.

SinkingQuffa

8:46am

Playing not to lose, instead of to win.

88Coug

8:48am

Watching that on that final drive was no doubt disappointing. Especially considerin how bad we'd failed the drive before

SinkingQuffa

8:51am

I want to make an observations about the officiating. I don’t think the

cougaman

8:43am

Don’t be Mark Harlan

Carnac

8:46am

Harlan blamed the officials. I stated they didn’t cost the game, and the call I

cougaman

8:47am

That was a clear and blatant hold. I agree.

Idacoug

8:48am

That was the most obvious hold ever.

HimmerFredette

8:54am

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