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10:34am

What's pretty pathetic about Furlong's rankings (& it'll be HARDLY unique to him): Is we got this clump of Big12 teams

SinkingQuffa Intervention Needed

10:34am

Recruits taking pictures with their mom isn't crazy. Happens all of the time

fattycoug

10:34am

I love the 20 pre-board announcements of only getting one carry-on and one personal item, and thats its a completely

P-Boy Squad All-American

10:33am

It's (D)ifferent

Supercoug

10:34am

Was Gordon M just colluding with Vegas/Wendover sports books to take Yewts $$$$

bruincoug

10:32am

Too many of the shotgun snaps were low after Pay went out. Hopefully that gets fixed during the bye

Indy Coug Loquacious Lummox

10:30am

Yeah. Gave me flashbacks to our issues a few years back

ballen

10:32am

Was the BU QB yesterday the same one who played vs the U? For some reason I

MustacheMan

10:29am

Different QB. The one we faced is much better.

2FarGone

10:30am

Last season we only had 11 sacks. After five games we already have 10. Thank you Jay Hill!

Brisket Contributor

10:27am

BYU is all alone

Indy Coug Loquacious Lummox

10:27am

*P4

Avery

10:28am

And that SMU win is looking better and better.

Brisket

10:28am

I was about to post this. That win looks good and looking better every week.

paulb

10:33am

Hans says that kalani wasn’t too concerned with pay or Taggart injury

1984coug

10:26am

Is he ever?

Projectoor

10:27am

We can’t believe a single thing we hear about injury information

Ojiisan

10:27am

Great…. Now I’m worried they are both out the remainder of the season…

MustacheMan

10:35am

I know the win was ugly, but the fact that we held on shows a lot.

Icelandic Cougar

10:25am

Probably better for the team over a bye week. Still won, but nobody is gonna

ballen

10:27am

BYE weeks are so much better after a win. Sitting on a loss for 2 weeks is rough (especially if we would have lost a

HarlemCoug

10:29am

big fan of sam vander haar

Beggar

10:24am

Here's a link to Spencer's - very likable guy. He's just a sophomore. Will be interesting to follow the punting battle.

HarlemCoug

10:26am

Good interview but the one I listened was with Greg

Beggar

10:28am

oops - missed that... edited

HarlemCoug

10:30am

Any info on his Journey to US/BYU as they mentioned in the interview?

JohnnyC

10:32am

My son and his buddies weekly NFL predictions. You should for sure bet based on

macdizzle

10:22am

Rankings early are stupid. But they should swing wildly in the first 5 weeks

Iman23

10:21am

Because a good team can have a bad week at the same time a bad team has a good week

RealTaysomHill

10:22am

Because they got crushed by K-State who in turn got crushed by BYU

2FarGone

10:23am

You can't base rankings on one game

Projectoor

10:24am

I agree but in this case…two one loss teams…one beat the other easily. End of

Iman23

10:28am

On the flip side, the CFP rankings only coming in for the last 4 weeks is too

1984coug

10:27am

how does delaying the rankings help anyone set up narratives? How does having

cwilke1

10:31am

Too many voters went to bed and didn't watch the game

thewaterboy

10:29am

Your first sentence is key. Everything else is redundant.

shoganai

10:30am

I'm no gambler but if I was I'd bet the house on the DBacks winning today. The

Methusaleh22

10:20am

DBacks are -192

garyfan

10:32am

BYU just needs to get to the CCG and has the tie breaker with KSU a clearly good

NYC and Japan

10:19am

Who would have in there right mind taken byu -4.5 total wins???

gmoney7

10:22am

Small correction, QBR only goes to 100. He had a 200+ PER.

Bartimaeus

10:25am

Thanks. Corrected.

NYC and Japan

10:30am

Refs allowed Arizona dbs to go all Michigan on the Utah receivers.

claw

10:18am

Our DBs were the most concerning defensive area.

2FarGone

10:19am

Bamba played well I thought.

BYU '80

10:21am

Which is usually the case with Ute dbs on our WRs

Borg

10:31am

If Uncle Charlie takes care of business today (or if the D'backs inexplicably

Corn Pop

10:18am

Do you think it may be too much time off for Sale and he will be rusty?

Mr. Belding

10:20am

First things first, gotta win today (or D'backs lose), but I don't think so.

Corn Pop

10:29am

That's true.

Mr. Belding

10:34am

Furlong has the Cougs 16 and the Utes 18. Good for him. That seems about right.

SpecialT This Board Rating Has Been Fla

10:13am

Where does he have Arizona?

Avery

10:14am

In the “Also receiving consideration”. So unranked.

SpecialT

10:15am

Hmm so two teams with identical records, one just beat the other away...yet its

Avery

10:17am

Preseason polls hold too much weight, even throughout the entire regular season.

COACHdrn

10:24am

Arizona unranked lol

LaVellIfIKnow

10:15am

Doesn't matter. If they beat Texas Tech next week, they will be ranked coming into LES.

2FarGone

10:17am

But....does the Big 12 call P.I.??? 😀

WJCougar

10:17am

Wow. Color me amazed.

Team Chaos

10:17am

You know what. . . For being a total yewt. . . That's pretty good.

Zoobieman

10:21am

Good for him. That's somewhat fair. Yewts lost a LOT of luster yesterday. Btw their own loss & KState's beatdown of OkSt

SinkingQuffa

10:26am

Everyone should listen to Hans on the Morning After podcast discuss the game

1984coug

10:11am

He was making plays most of the game. Played well once we went up 21-0. This confuses me.

TRUE_BLUE_COUGY

10:14am

Hans was referencing coverages being very basic early

1984coug

10:23am

I don't have any issues with Hans. I really like him.

GSwarriorcoug

10:14am

I am really not a fan of playing-it-safe or going conservative until we're up by four scores mid-way through the fourth

2FarGone

10:14am

Well we did win the game yesterday. If you don't think it worked after a win

GSwarriorcoug

10:20am

Now, consider that strategy (your Allgeier example) without a running game and your QB being your leading rusher

2FarGone

10:22am

I disagree on the playing it safe part. We were sending guys, they just weren't

byubyu

10:17am

He’s talking about coverages

1984coug

10:20am

What is the name of the podcast? I’m not finding it in Apple Podcasts

Royal_Minister

10:19am

Have to go to KSL sports app

1984coug

10:20am

Thanks. I love his stuff.

Royal_Minister

10:21am

I don't understand the Hans hate. He is good

Projectoor

10:19am

Lots of forlorn faces at church today

Doctor Rosenrosen

10:10am

RE: Lots of forlorn faces at church today

Lifi

10:17am

Got a ticket for fire in wrong area in AF canyon

hdogg

10:09am

Isn’t that like getting a speeding ticket basically?

pink22

10:13am

Good lesson. Pay the fine, no employer is going to care about that.

Nakedbootleg

10:14am

Don’t be a ute.

Tesla Coug

10:19am

Do a plea in abeyance

BYULAWGUY

10:35am

Im so confused on the rules up there. Do you mind telling me where you were at?

GFCougar

10:21am

This is why yewts did not want us to Join PAC12 or any other P4 conference.

JohnnyC

10:09am

Honor code still gives our fellow conference foes a distinct advantage at times.

PhilPete

10:19am

Tell that to MBB….seems like they are embracing the HC.

JohnnyC

10:20am

Not until Utah joins the B1G

brazilcoug

10:23am

RE: Not until Utah joins the B1G

JohnnyC

10:25am

POLL: When do you believe that we're the rightful favorites to win our game in RES?

SinkingQuffa Intervention Needed

10:05am

When ARod learns how to build an insurmountable lead, by never going conservative until the clock hits zero

2FarGone

10:08am

ESPNs David hale on the Big12 race

Avery

10:04am

I would’ve called it the victory root beer play if we lost

finnish_blue

10:08am

LOL. Being chased on the high seas by yhe British Navy.

TLCougar

10:08am

That Rising comment 🤌

cruiserhead

10:09am

LOL

TwinsRight

10:09am

My goodness, the block from Tyler Batty on the fake punt

Sir_Ten

10:02am

Nelson's block is what got him the 1st down

Jagger

10:06am

Such a spectacular play. No one knew our kicker could run. We've held off on calling the fake for 4 games waiting for

HarlemCoug

10:11am

He looks so un-athletic but he has some speed. He looked very comfortable

ybecausethatswhy

10:11am

He's a remarkably talented open field runner.

HarlemCoug

10:13am

Did the announcers say that he played Aussie-rules football growing up? That would explain his running ability.

dilbert

10:14am

He's Australian

HarlemCoug

10:16am

True, but not every Australian plays that particular sport (I assume). Or maybe they do, for all I know. 🙂

dilbert

10:23am

Isn't it safe to say that every (literally every) Australian punter in college football played Aussie rules football?

HarlemCoug

10:32am

If they are coming over here to punt you van basically guarantee they played

JuicyJam

10:33am

He confirmed that in his interview with Greg after the game.

kccougar

10:16am

Boy, that one defender only barely missed stopping Vander Haar at the line of scrimmage. We executed that play really

dilbert

10:13am

He relishes a chance to hit someone.

JuicyJam

10:31am

Sitake tied with LaVell with 3, 5-0 starts… wow

VinnyBYU

10:02am

2020 and what's the other year?

TRUE_BLUE_COUGY

10:04am

2021 I think iirc

cruiserhead

10:05am

The pac 12 sweep year

cruiserhead

10:05am

Oh yes! What a year!

TRUE_BLUE_COUGY

10:18am

2021 when Boise came in and we fumbled it away

1984coug

10:06am

That game was such a let down. But I really should have died in a car accident

ybecausethatswhy

10:16am

Wrong. The announcer himself said this was BYU’s first 5-0 start since 1984

spinner

10:11am

Do the right thing Denver.

S-rizzle

10:01am

I made this comment at a party last night (I live in Denver). Nobody laughed.

spinner

10:09am

Probably already posted, but never hurts to post again!

creameryon9th

10:00am

So does the U really refuse to sell tickets to BYU fans in blocs? If so isn't that illegal?

Knight-who-says-ni Walk-on

9:59am

How would they know you are a BYU fan?

cypresstx

10:01am

What I mean is that, in the past, universities were either required to, or via common courtesy

Knight-who-says-ni

10:04am

Usually when teams do this it’s based on the buyer’s zip code, so unless that is

Martin Van Nostrand

10:04am

BYU still gets an allotment, it's just very small.

byubyu

10:11am

And in the worst view section of the stadium probably.

Knight-who-says-ni

10:15am

Nearly all teams have the visitors sit in terrible sections. We certainly do it. I'm not sure how big or small Utah's

HarlemCoug

10:20am

Which section is the byu section?

Viva Campeche

10:32am

What goes around should come around.

Dryfire

10:26am

Accurate

Vanilla Truly Addicted User

9:58am

My mood waking up this morning…

cougarblue

9:58am

Love it!

MoodyBlueCoug

10:26am

I'm hoping that K-State wins the rest of their regular season games

wildeone

9:58am

I would rather face Iowa State in the Big 12 Champ game than a rematch against K-State

2FarGone

10:00am

I'm anxious to watch them from yesterday from recording. If they were dominant, that will be great for our

CLCougar

10:19am

Here’s the issue with Cam, that I’ve shared FO

1984coug

9:56am

They have already thrown Wilson to the wolves, might as well keep him there and move on from Rising altogether

2FarGone

9:59am

That’s the other issue, almost in a no win situation

1984coug

10:01am

From someone I would trust very close to the Utah program before the season started...

P-Boy Squad

10:05am

It is unfortunate for him, it really is

1984coug

10:07am

he's been well compensated for his troubles

nwcat

10:11am

It’s true

1984coug

10:12am

Kelly, Glassker, and Taggart are licking their chops.

Real Men Wear Blue

10:25am

To me, Utah looked more inept than Arizona looked great.

2FarGone No One of Consequence

9:56am

Sometimes a good defense can do that. But maybe...

Knight-who-says-ni

10:01am

Slightly disagree. Utah O has struggled but AZ pressured Wilson and trusted

CougGolf

10:01am

Let’s just soak this in right now…

JohnnyComeLately Token Native

9:55am

What is pf and pa

conetah

9:59am

Points for and against

Mr. Belding

9:59am

Ooof on Houston having 0 points in conference play. Dang.

conetah

10:01am

RE: Let’s just soak this in right now…

Mr. Belding

9:59am

Pat McAfee approves this message

Sparkling Delirium

9:59am

I love a good soak

CougarCanuck76

10:02am

IU and BYU on top! Wow

cougsnhoosiers

10:17am

Surprisingly most prefer the bottom

creameryon9th

10:22am

5-0! A win is a win. May not be the prettiest but it’s a W

MD Rebel Coug

9:54am

The first half was one of the prettiest in memory.

Benfica1

9:59am

In the B12 it is about Ws, not as much style points like it was before

Projectoor

10:12am

You guys all made fun of Deion, but I think we're seeing now

bythenumbers

9:53am

Interesting-chances to make the playoffs for teams out west.

TempeCoug

9:53am

Stanford

paulb

9:53am

So I take it Utah lost last night?

byujacob INSUFFERABLE KNOW IT ALL

9:51am

Yes, CB informed me that uu didn't win. They wouldn't give the score though.

Benfica1

10:00am

Every single year

Vanilla Truly Addicted User

9:51am

We should be ranked 19 today

Bigcouggy2

9:50am

It’s real & it’s a huge problem. I’m honestly surprised that it was topic #1 on

Lifi

9:48am

These guys

refunder

9:47am

I know it's scientically impossible but I swear I can smell that picture.

Methusaleh22

9:54am

for the win

Dr MoBYU

9:55am

RE: These guys

WaffleCheese

9:58am

All the red and black just enhances the troglodytic features of their student

benny1982

9:59am

And hanging out with John C. Reilly?

Real Men Wear Blue

10:28am

Zach catching up w/ Rodgers today.

Soupie Grandma Sycamore

9:47am

Zach looks like he aged 10 years the past year.

2FarGone

9:49am

Nah just a bad hair day

Kevin Arnold

10:11am

Freaking love Zach

RWaters

9:49am

Would love to see the karma gods have injuries force Zach to play and he then

NOCAL_YFAN

9:49am

Looks like Zach is rapidly going bald

byujacob

9:51am

The rain isn’t helping the look.

bluesloth

9:56am

Best guess: Nix isn't ready for that Jets defense.

Corn Pop

9:55am

This made me laugh. Scroll down to read the reply.

Mr. Rumsfield

9:46am

Dang. 10 o’clock and CB is already crawling with POTD candidates.

Hawk in the 303

10:04am

What happened with Harper at safety?

dryflyelk All-American

9:45am

He played yesterday

Bluedarts

9:45am

Played yesterday. He’s on minute restriction

Zombre

9:46am

This.. coaches are playing the longer game with him, getting him up to speed

1984coug

10:08am

So was the KSU/AZ matchup an OOC game? Dumb.

The Y's Insider

9:44am

Yes, just like the Baylor/Utah matchup was

2FarGone

9:45am

utah’s early failed 4th-down conversions highlight a problem with analytics,

Japan Coug

9:43am

They kind of do actually. In that they are developed from the future result of the play

darkcoug

9:46am

I don’t think they sufficiently account for the risk of momentum swings if you

Japan Coug

9:51am

Maybe. The data is built from the average of all similar situations

darkcoug

9:57am

Yup, definitely coaching failure.

sfeuz

9:47am

4th and 2 inside your 10 means you should go for it almost always.

HarlemCoug

9:49am

Yes, that’s what the analytics say. I’m saying that a smart coach will also

Japan Coug

9:53am

If you miss the other team still has the ball with 90+ yards to go. It's very rare for teams to get 7 points on a drive

HarlemCoug

9:58am

Well, that approach definitely didn’t work for utah last night. When I saw that

Japan Coug

10:04am

Yeah it did, Arizona only got 3 points from those two drives

groy

10:14am

You have to look beyond what happened in the actual next drive, IMO, and look at

Japan Coug

10:20am

I'm very surprised my the take that Whittingham's pride lost the game for Utah

bythenumbers

10:12am

I agree with your assessment, but I also think there’s one thing not

Blue Heart

9:59am

I agree that this is a risk. But it must be balanced against the risk of failure

Japan Coug

10:07am

First one, good with it. 2nd? Kick it after failing the first time

1984coug

9:52am

Problem with analytics is, it isn’t based on a specific team. Utah’s O struggles

MustacheMan

10:10am

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