Beyond the Game Podcast

Get ready for an inspiring episode of Beyond the Game as host Mike Lacey sits down with BYU football legend Jim McMahon. When his dad put the brakes on his dreams to play baseball at UNLV, it sent him on an unexpected path that changed everything. Behind those famous sunglasses was a football genius with a photographic memory who thrived in BYU's high-flying offense - which Jim still calls "the best offense I've ever played in," better than any of his seven NFL teams.

You'll hear about the incredible "Miracle Bowl" comeback against SMU where Jim refused to leave the field when coaches wanted to punt on 4th down, telling them "What are you guys quitting?" before leading one of college football's most unforgettable comebacks. Though he never fit the typical BYU mold, Jim formed unbreakable bonds with teammates, especially his offensive linemen who he celebrated with those famous headbutts during his Chicago Bears Super Bowl run.

While baseball remained his primary passion, McMahon's football career produced a Super Bowl championship, memorable moments with the Bears, and a lasting legacy that continues to resonate with fans in both Chicago and Provo. This episode reveals the striking contrast between McMahon's rebellious public image and his unwavering commitment to team success—offering listeners a deeper understanding of one of football's most compelling figures!

Get ready for an exciting episode of Beyond the Game as host Mike Lacey sits down with Andrew Gentry, the 6'8" offensive lineman who recently transferred from Michigan to BYU. After committing to Virginia out of high school, Gentry's path took an unexpected turn when Bronco Mendenhall stepped down during his mission for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in Orem, Utah.

While serving faithfully as a missionary, Gentry received permission from his mission president to meet with coaches after his parents reached out to potential schools. In a remarkable story, Jim Harbaugh flew to Utah, meeting Gentry in Orem's University Mall. Accompanied by his mission companions, Gentry spent 45 minutes with Harbaugh before committing to Michigan on the spot—and then returning to proselytizing that same day.

This divinely-timed connection led to an incredible journey at Michigan that included a National Championship season alongside eight offensive linemen who went to the NFL. Despite battling through injuries and eventually suffering a Lisfranc injury that sidelined him during Michigan's 2023 campaign, Gentry's faith and prayers guided him to BYU following Harbaugh's departure to the NFL.His decision was influenced by BYU's newfound urgency and competitive spirit in the Big 12, where he sees the potential to compete for a National Championship. Through stories of practicing against future NFL defensive linemen, learning from Coach Harbaugh's leadership, and overcoming setbacks, Gentry shares valuable life lessons like "Don't get bitter, get better." Now recovering from surgery with hopes of returning to full strength for fall camp, Gentry brings his championship experience and NFL aspirations to a BYU offensive line that showed tremendous growth last season.

Get ready for an exciting episode of Beyond the Game as host Mike Lacey sits down with former BYU tight end Byron Rex. From his Hawaiian roots to his memorable playing days at BYU, Byron shares how football became a vehicle for teaching eternal principles to his family, including his sons Isaac and Preston who followed in his footsteps at BYU.

Through honest stories about his highs and lows—including the unforgettable Hawaii game incident—Byron shows how these key moments shaped both his football career and his approach as a father. His longtime connections with coaches LaVell Edwards and Tom Holmoe, plus his friendship with the Herrick family, demonstrate how BYU football builds relationships that last far beyond game day. Now coaching high school football, Byron passes down what he learned at BYU while watching his sons Isaac and Preston continue the Rex family's growing BYU legacy.

Get ready for an inspiring episode of Beyond the Game as host Mike Lacey sits down with BYU quarterback legend Gary Sheide. When LaVell Edwards recruited him from Antioch, California in the early 1970s, Gary had never heard of BYU or the LDS Church. His journey from a talented multi-sport athlete to becoming one of BYU's pioneering quarterbacks changed not just his football career but his entire life's trajectory. Known for his powerful arm that could throw 60 yards in eighth grade, Gary's natural abilities and dedication helped launch BYU's passing dynasty under Edwards.

Though injuries affected his final game and pro prospects, his impact on BYU football inspired future quarterbacks like Marc Wilson to follow in his footsteps. Now a junior high teacher after a successful business career, Gary shares how divine guidance through seemingly random events - from a visit to Temple Square to unexpected missionary encounters - led to blessings including a temple marriage, five children who served missions, and a life of meaningful impact both on and off the field.

Get ready for an inspiring episode of Beyond the Game as host Mike Lacey sits down with legendary NCAA basketball coach James Harrick. From his early days learning from John Wooden to leading UCLA to the 1995 National Championship, Coach Harrick shares how divine guidance shaped his remarkable coaching journey.

Starting as a high school English teacher who studied Wooden's every move, Harrick developed his own positive coaching philosophy that emphasized being "practiced, planned, and prepared." His conversion to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints while at Utah State and friendship with John Wooden led to life-changing opportunities, including directing Wooden's basketball camps. Through stories about coaching Ed O'Bannon, working with Kiki Kiki VanDeWeghe, and learning from the master himself, Harrick reveals how focusing on developing character over statistics creates lasting impact beyond the game.

Now watching his step-granddaughter play for Utah and his grandson compete at Southern Virginia University, Coach Harrick continues sharing timeless wisdom about the power of preparation, positive reinforcement, and playing together.

Get ready for an exciting episode of Beyond the Game as host Mike Lacey sits down with BYU's newest defensive tackle Keanu Tanuvasa. After three successful seasons at Utah, his surprising transfer to BYU was guided by more than just football - it was about finding the right environment for his future growth both on and off the field.

Known for his infectious smile off the field and tenacious play on it, Keanu brings a unique perspective on what makes a championship culture. Through stories of rivalry games, mission experiences in Provo, and his journey through the transfer portal, Keanu shares how focusing on becoming the "one" while uplifting others around you can create lasting impact beyond the game. His insights on being a "pillar" rather than just a player reveal wisdom beyond his years and give Cougar fans plenty to be excited about for the upcoming season.

Get ready for an engaging episode of Beyond the Game as host Mike Lacey sits down with Marc Lyons, whose journey from BYU quarterback to beloved broadcaster spans over four decades of Cougar football history. From running the belly series offense in the late 1960s to becoming the trusted voice alongside Paul James in the broadcast booth, Marc's story weaves together the evolution of BYU football with personal tales of faith and transformation. The conversation explores pivotal moments in BYU football history, including fascinating stories about Tommy Hudspeth's "Marine invasion" of 1965 that led to BYU's first conference championship, and how one tough Marine named Perry Rodriguez discovered the unique spirit of BYU years later during a conversation with Bronco Mendenhall.

Marc shares intimate details about his transition from non-member athlete to converting to the LDS Church during his time at BYU, and how that transformation shaped his life's trajectory. From his years balancing roles as Olympus High School's head football coach while traveling to broadcast BYU games, to his special relationship with broadcasting partner Paul James, Marc provides unique insights into both sides of the microphone. He reveals the art of color commentary, including his strategy of explaining football concepts "as if I was explaining it to my wife" and the occasional playful moments when he and offensive coordinator Norm Chow would give Paul James the wrong opening play prediction just to keep things interesting.

Through heartwarming stories about LaVell Edwards' remarkable memory for players' families and clever tales of creative play-calling at Olympus High ("Mudcat up the river" for a quarterback sneak), Marc illustrates how football can build lasting connections and create unforgettable memories. His journey exemplifies the special bond between BYU football and its community, from the electrifying atmosphere of LaVell Edwards Stadium to the far-reaching radio waves that kept countless fans connected to their beloved Cougars across the country, even helping some stay awake during long road trips through the power of his storytelling alongside Paul James.

Get ready for an inspiring episode of Beyond the Game as host Mike Lacey sits down with Vic Tarleton, whose journey exemplifies the transformative power of community and service through football. From star quarterback at Rancho Cordova High School in California to cornerback at BYU in the 1990s, Vic's path demonstrates how diverse experiences shape character and create opportunities to impact others.

The conversation explores how the unique athletic culture at Rancho Cordova High School, enriched by the diverse community including families from Mather Air Force Base, laid the foundation for Vic's inclusive worldview.

Get ready for a heartwarming episode of Beyond the Game as host Mike Lacey sits down with Layne Batty, father of BYU defensive end Tyler Batty. From his authentic ranching lifestyle to the devastating early morning accident that nearly ended Tyler's football career, Layne shares intimate details of his son's remarkable journey back to the field.

Get ready for an exciting episode of Beyond the Game as host Mike Lacey sits down with Greg Wrubell, the beloved "Voice of the Cougars." From his early days as a Canadian student arriving at BYU in 1984 to becoming one of college sports' most respected broadcasters, Greg's journey showcases the evolution of BYU athletics across four different conferences. The conversation reveals fascinating insights into sports broadcasting, including Greg's "Three P's" philosophy of Passion, Preparation, and Presentation, his meticulous pre-game preparation routines, and the challenges of memorizing entire football rosters weekly.

Greg shares how he transitioned from student reporter to sideline reporter under legendary broadcaster Paul James, before taking over as the lead voice for both football and basketball. Through personal stories of working with coaching icons like LaVell Edwards, Greg illustrates how maintaining authenticity and dedication to craft creates lasting connections with fans across generations. He also offers unique perspective on BYU's transition to the Big 12 Conference and the evolving landscape of college athletics.

Get ready for an inspiring episode of Beyond the Game as host Mike Lacey welcomes Mel Farr, a beloved figure from BYU football's golden era. From his start as an equipment manager in 1977 to his pivotal role in the legendary 1980 Holiday Bowl, Mel's journey exemplifies the heart and spirit of BYU athletics!

Standing at just 5'4", Mel earned the respect of players like Jim McMahon through his unwavering determination and ability to stand up for himself. The conversation reveals compelling behind-the-scenes stories, including Mel's famous phone book-tearing tradition that became a team ritual, his iconic leap onto LaVell Edwards after the Miracle Bowl victory, and how his "never give up" mantra inspired one of college football's greatest comebacks.

Through stories of working with legendary figures like Floyd Johnson and the 1980 championship team, Mel illustrates how size and physical limitations never defined his impact on BYU football. His story has captured such attention that a screenplay about the 1980 Miracle Bowl, told through Mel's perspective, is currently in production. Drawing from his experiences managing equipment for stars like Jim McMahon and Clay Brown, Mel opens up about the special brotherhood of BYU football and how choosing to persist through challenges creates lasting impact beyond the game itself.

Get ready for an exciting episode of Beyond the Game as host Mike Lacey sits down with Val Hale, former BYU Athletic Director and author of the newly released book "Out of the Blue." From his early days as an intern in the sports information office during Jim McMahon's junior year to his transformative tenure as Athletic Director from 1999-2004, Val's journey showcases the evolution of BYU athletics from "plain vanilla" to a modern powerhouse.

The conversation reveals fascinating behind-the-scenes stories, including BYU's pursuit of Andy Reid as head football coach, the controversial "bibs" uniform experiment, and the strategic shift from royal to navy blue that revolutionized BYU's merchandise sales. Val shares how he helped oversee major facility developments including Miller Park, the Student Athlete Building, and the Indoor Practice Facility, while navigating the complex intersection of faith, academics, and big-time college athletics.

Drawing from his recently published memoir, Val opens up about the abrupt end to his BYU career and how choosing to be "better not bitter" opened doors to new opportunities, including roles as UVU Vice President and head of Utah's Office of Economic Development. Through stories of working with legendary figures like LaVell Edwards and Floyd Johnson, Val illustrates how maintaining perspective and positive relationships - even through challenging transitions - creates lasting impact beyond wins and losses.

Get ready for an exciting episode of Beyond the Game as host Mike Lacey sits down with NFL Super Bowl champion head coach Brian Billick. From BYU tight end to engineering the Baltimore Ravens' first Super Bowl victory, Brian's journey showcases the power of teaching and mentorship in football.

The conversation explores his unique path through coaching, including pivotal moments learning from legends like Bill Walsh, Doug Scovil, and Denny Green. Brian shares fascinating insights about being part of both the NFL's highest-scoring offense with the 1998 Minnesota Vikings and the record-setting 2000 Ravens defense that allowed just 9 points per game - a record he believes will never be broken.

Drawing from his experiences writing Bill Walsh's legacy book "Finding the Winning Edge," Brian discusses how precise teaching and attention to detail, rather than just play-calling genius, create championship cultures. He reflects on the evolution of his coaching philosophy, from early lessons about work-life balance under Denny Green to his own approach emphasizing teaching fundamentals.

The conversation touches on his time at BYU, his transition through various coaching roles, and how mentors shaped his understanding of leadership. Through stories of quarterback development, defensive dominance, and organizational building, Brian illustrates how focused teaching and strong relationships form the foundation for sustained success!

Get ready for an inspiring episode of Beyond the Game as host Mike Lacey sits down with BYU basketball legend Scott Runia. When two apostles showed up at his Salt Lake City home to recruit him to BYU instead of his dream school Utah, it changed not just his basketball career but his entire life's trajectory.

Known for shooting 500 shots every day except Sundays, Scott's pure shooting touch and quiet competitiveness helped define BYU's golden era alongside Danny Ainge. His recruiting host role even included a memorable snowball incident that nearly derailed Ainge's commitment to BYU. Together with teammates like Ainge, Fred Roberts, and Steve Craig, they formed one of the most prolific scoring teams in BYU history - with all five starters reaching 1,000 career points despite playing before the three-point line.

While choosing basketball over a traditional mission initially left him feeling incomplete, Scott's path led to unexpected blessings - meeting his wife Tammy, a successful career at Merrill Lynch, and eventually serving as a Mission President in Australia. Through stories of epic games, legendary teammates, and life-changing decisions, Scott shares how following divine guidance - even when it leads away from our planned path - can result in a life of meaningful impact both on and off the court.

Get ready for an inspiring episode of Beyond the Game as host Mike Lacey sits down with Robbie Bosco, the quarterback who led BYU to its historic 1984 National Championship. From deciding on BYU in the final hours of his recruitment to overcoming a serious shoulder injury that affected his NFL prospects, Robbie's story is one of determination and lasting impact.

Despite not being a member of the Church at the time, Bosco's personal values aligned perfectly with BYU's culture. His championship season would prove transformative for college football, sparking changes in bowl game matchups and national rankings, while weathering criticism from figures like Barry Switzer and Bryant Gumbel who questioned BYU's strength of schedule.

As BYU celebrates both 100 years of football and the 40th anniversary of the 1984 National Championship, Bosco offers unique perspectives on how that championship season changed college football, including the controversial reactions from figures like Barry Switzer and Bryant Gumbel. His insights on BYU's current success in the Big 12 and the changing landscape of college athletics through NIL and conference realignment demonstrate his continued passion for the program he helped build.

Get ready for an exciting episode of Beyond the Game as host Mike Lacey sits down with BYU football defensive end Tyler Batty. From his early days working on his family's ranch in Payson to becoming a key player on BYU's defense, Tyler's journey is a testament to determination, resilience, and finding purpose beyond the game!

His path to football success wasn't without significant obstacles. A devastating ATV accident before his freshman year of high school left him with a severe brain injury that doctors said should have ended his football career. Against medical advice but driven by passion and determination, Tyler worked his way back to playing the sport he loved. Beyond his accomplishments on the field, Tyler has found a profound calling in continuing his family's legacy of service through equine therapy. Inspired by witnessing the transformative impact of horseback riding on Coach Ed Lamb's son Edward, who has autism, Tyler founded Edward's Hands - a non-profit organization providing free equine therapy services to individuals with special needs.

Throughout this episode, Mike and Tyler discuss the evolution of BYU's defense, the joy of playing football, and how his experiences - from ranch life to recovery to creating Edward's Hands - have shaped his perspective on what matters most. His story is one of perseverance, faith, and using personal trials to help others.

Get ready for an inspiring episode of Beyond the Game as host Mike Lacey sits down with brothers Mark and Brian Santiago. From their early days as standout basketball players at Provo High School to their current roles in athletics, the Santiagos' journey is a testament to the power of family, faith, and dedication to sports. Their path was both challenging and rewarding. Growing up in a Puerto Rican-Utah household with seven siblings, they developed a deep appreciation for hard work, sacrifice, and the importance of relationships.

Throughout this episode, Mike and the Santiago brothers dive into the defining moments of their storied careers. From their days playing pickup basketball at the Smith Fieldhouse to Brian's current role in BYU's athletic administration, they discuss the evolution of BYU athletics, the legacy of coaches like LaVell Edwards and Roger Reid, and the exciting future ahead in the Big 12 Conference. They share insights about their father's journey from the Bronx to BYU, their mother's roots in rural Utah, and how their parents' sacrifices shaped their values. From the basketball court to the administrative offices, the Santiagos' story is one of perseverance, brotherhood, and a genuine love for BYU athletics.

Get ready for an inspiring episode of Beyond the Game as host Mike Lacey sits down with the multi-talented BYU basketball player, Trey Stewart. From his early days as a recruit to his current role as a key player and entrepreneur, Trey's journey is a testament to the power of perseverance, creativity, and a deep passion for both sports and art. At BYU, Trey's path has been both challenging and rewarding. With years of experience on the court and in the classroom, he has become a respected figure among his teammates and a unique voice in the world of college athletics.Throughout this episode, Mike and Trey dive into the defining moments of his college career.

From his decision to stay at BYU despite the challenges of the transfer portal to his record-breaking performance at the NBA Combine, they discuss the evolution of college basketball, the challenges of balancing athletics with academics and entrepreneurship, and the impact of faith on his personal and professional choices. Trey shares insights about his clothing brand "Default Happiness" and his philosophy of using art to spread love. From the basketball court to the sewing machine, Trey's story is one of versatility, innovation, and a genuine desire to uplift others.

Get ready for an inspiring episode of Beyond the Game as host Mike Lacey sits down with the multi-talented Yahosh Bonner. From his early days as a point guard at the University of Northern Colorado to his current role as a singer, actor, and athletic director, Yahosh's journey is a testament to the power of faith, family, and pursuing diverse passions. As a member of the renowned Bonner family, Yahosh's path was both challenging and rewarding. Growing up in a musical household with seven siblings, he developed a love for singing and sports that would shape his future endeavors.

Throughout this episode, Mike and Yahosh dive into the defining moments of his varied career. From his experiences as a college basketball player to his transition into music and acting, they discuss the importance of nurturing multiple talents, the challenges of balancing family life with artistic pursuits, and the impact of faith on his personal and professional choices. Yahosh shares insights about his role in the film "Green Flake," shedding light on the often-overlooked stories of Black Latter-day Saints in early Church history. From the basketball court to the recording studio, Yahosh's story is one of perseverance, adaptability, and a genuine love for uplifting others through his talents.

Get ready for an inspiring episode of Beyond the Game as host Mike Lacey sits down with his son, Michael Dean Lacey.

From his early days as a goalkeeper for BYU's soccer team to his current role as a successful entrepreneur, Michael's journey is a testament to the power of perseverance, adaptability, and faith. At BYU, Michael's path was both challenging and rewarding. Balancing a rigorous academic schedule with the demands of collegiate sports and family life, he developed skills that would serve him well in his future endeavors.

Throughout this episode, Mike and Michael dive into the defining moments of his career. From his first entrepreneurial venture detailing cars to founding Highland Custom Homes and eventually launching CoFi, a innovative construction finance company, they discuss the evolution of Michael's business acumen, the challenges of starting and growing companies, and the impact of his work on the construction and banking industries. From the soccer field to the boardroom, Michael's story is one of determination, family support, and a genuine passion for problem-solving.

Get ready for an inspiring episode of Beyond the Game as host Mike Lacey sits down with the accomplished entrepreneur and BYU supporter, Nick Greer. From his early days as a struggling business student to his prominent role as the founder of Built Brands, Nick's career is a testament to the power of perseverance, innovation, and a deep passion for supporting student-athletes.

At Built Brands, Nick's path was both challenging and rewarding. His work has not only provided nutritional products to athletes but has also pioneered a new model of support for walk-on players that has shaped the national conversation around NIL.

Throughout this episode, Mike and Nick dive into the defining moments of his storied career. From his first business idea that a professor dismissed to his groundbreaking decision to support BYU's walk-on football players, they discuss the evolution of sports business, the challenges of navigating the changing NIL landscape, and the impact of his work on the BYU community. Nick shares insights into his decision-making process, his vision for Built Brands, and his perspective on the future of college athletics.

Get ready for an inspiring episode of Beyond the Game as host Mike Lacey sits down with former BYU and NFL defensive end, Bronson Kaufusi. From his early days as a multi-sport athlete to his prominent role in the NFL and current work in investment education, Bronson's career is a testament to the power of adaptability, dedication, and a deep passion for helping others.

At BYU, Bronson's path was both challenging and rewarding. With experience in both football and basketball, he became a respected figure in BYU athletics. His work on the field has not only showcased his athletic prowess but also demonstrated the values of teamwork and perseverance that have shaped his post-playing career.

Throughout this episode, Mike and Bronson dive into the defining moments of his storied career. From his memorable plays at BYU to his transition to tight end in the NFL, they discuss the evolution of his athletic journey, the challenges of maintaining a positive attitude in a competitive environment, and the impact of his family's legacy in Utah sports. Bronson shares insights into his current work helping athletes make wise financial decisions and his perspective on the importance of education and preparation for life after sports.

Get ready for an exciting episode of Beyond the Game as host Mike Lacey sits down with the accomplished academic, business leader, and General Authority, Kim B. Clark. From his early days in Spokane, Washington to his prominent roles as Dean of Harvard Business School and President of BYU-Idaho, Kim's career is a testament to the power of education, leadership, and faith.

At Harvard Business School, Kim's path was both challenging and rewarding. With decades of experience in academia and business, he became a respected figure in the world of management education. His work has not only shaped the minds of future business leaders but has also provided insightful commentary on leadership principles that have influenced organizations worldwide.

Throughout this episode, Mike and Kim dive into the defining moments of his storied career. From his unexpected journey to Harvard to his transition to BYU-Idaho, they discuss the evolution of leadership paradigms, the challenges of balancing professional success with personal faith, and the impact of moral leadership in various contexts.

Get ready for an inspiring episode of Beyond the Game as host Mike Lacey sits down with BYU football legend and former NFL quarterback, Marc Wilson. From his early days as a freshman at BYU to his prominent role in shaping the university's quarterback legacy, Marc's career is a testament to resilience, teamwork, and the power of faith both on and off the field.

At BYU, Marc's path was both challenging and rewarding. With a unique career that saw him go from backup to record-setter, he became a key figure in BYU's rise to national prominence in college football. His experiences not only shaped his own career but also paved the way for future BYU quarterbacks.

Throughout this episode, Mike and Marc dive into the defining moments of his storied career. From his record-setting game against Colorado State to the heartbreaking 1979 Holiday Bowl, they discuss the evolution of BYU's offensive strategy, the challenges of balancing athletics with personal life, and the impact of faith and friendship in football. Marc shares intimate stories about his teammates, coaches, and the unsung heroes behind BYU's success.

Get ready for an inspiring episode of Beyond the Game as host Mike Lacey sits down with three BYU football legends: Scott Nielson, Tom Bell, and Danny Hansen. From their days as part of "Craig Thorp's Cross Country Team" to their enduring friendship decades later, these former offensive linemen share stories that showcase the unique BYU experience. Their careers are a testament to teamwork, dedication, and the lasting impact of BYU's football program.

At BYU, their paths were both challenging and rewarding. With years of experience protecting quarterbacks and opening holes for running backs, they became the unsung heroes of BYU's offensive success. Their work not only contributed to BYU's rise in college football but also shaped their lives long after leaving the field.

Throughout this episode, Mike and the trio dive into the defining moments of their football careers and beyond. From their first games to their most memorable plays, they discuss the evolution of BYU football, the challenges of balancing academics and athletics, and the impact of their experiences on their post-football lives.

Get ready for an inspiring episode of Beyond the Game as host Mike Lacey sits down with the accomplished journalist and sports columnist, Dick Harmon.

From his early days in journalism to his prominent role at the Deseret News, Dick's career is a testament to the power of storytelling, dedication, and a deep passion for sports.

At the Deseret News, Dick's path was both challenging and rewarding. With decades of experience covering BYU sports, he has become a trusted voice for fans and a respected figure in the world of sports journalism. His work has not only chronicled the highs and lows of BYU athletics but has also provided insightful commentary that has shaped public perception.

Throughout this episode, Mike and Dick dive into the defining moments of his storied career. From his first byline to his most memorable stories, they discuss the evolution of sports journalism, the challenges of maintaining journalistic integrity in a rapidly changing media landscape, and the impact of his work on the BYU community. From the newsroom to the press box, Dick's story is one of perseverance, integrity, and a genuine love for the game

Get ready for an inspiring episode of Beyond the Game as host Mike Lacey sits down with former BYU fullback and educational leader Steve Carlsen. From his high school days in Montpelier, Idaho to his time at BYU and his career in education, Steve's journey is one of perseverance, personal growth, and unexpected turns.

At BYU, Steve's path was challenging, going from academic probation to becoming a key player on special teams and eventually second-string fullback. His nickname "The Masher" and his experiences on the field shaped his approach to life and leadership.

Throughout this episode, Mike and Steve dive into the highs and lows of Steve's remarkable journey, from his initial struggles and thoughts of quitting to his eventual success on the field. They also explore the profound impact of Steve's teammates, coaches, and family support, which shaped his approach to football, personal growth, and his future career in education.

From the gridiron to the classroom, Steve's story is a testament to the transformative power of perseverance and the lasting impact of collegiate athletics.

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Get ready for an inspiring episode of Beyond the Game as host Mike Lacey sits down with Niko Carste, the youngest NFL Films employee and creative director for DK Metcalf. From his early passion for cinematography in high school to his work with NFL Films and the Seattle Seahawks, Niko's journey is a testament to dedication, creativity, and seizing opportunities.

In this episode, Mike and Niko discuss how his high school videography projects led to a burgeoning career in sports media, including working closely with NFL star DK Metcalf. They explore the impact of Niko's unique perspective as a digital native, his experiences at the University of Washington's Foster School of Business, and the behind-the-scenes stories from NFL Films.

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Get ready for an inspiring episode of Beyond the Game as host Mike Lacey sits down with former BYU football standout and NFL player Jim Herrmann.

From his high school days at Arrowhead High School to his time at BYU and his brief professional career, Jim's journey is one of determination, growth, and continuous improvement. At BYU, Jim's impact was significant, particularly in his junior and senior years. As a junior, he set a school record with 16 sacks, and as a senior co-captain, he contributed to BYU's 1984 National Championship team.

Throughout this episode, Mike and Jim dive into the highs and lows of Jim's remarkable career, from his multi-sport high school days in Wisconsin to his experiences playing at BYU and his brief stint in the NFL with the Dallas Cowboys and Cincinnati Bengals. They explore Jim's transition from being a Catholic student in the heartland of Wisconsin to thriving at BYU, a predominantly LDS institution. Jim shares insights on the lasting relationships he formed at BYU, particularly with teammates Steve Young and Lee Johnson, dubbed the "Three Amigos."

The conversation also touches on Jim's personal growth, from battling impostor syndrome to gaining confidence during his redshirt year. Jim reflects on the sanctity of the football huddle, the importance of relationships in life, and how his BYU experience shaped his approach to football, personal development, and life beyond the gridiron. This episode offers a heartfelt look at the transformative power of college athletics and the enduring impact of teamwork and friendship.

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Get ready for an inspiring episode of Beyond the Game as host Mike Lacey sits down with former BYU basketball standout and professional player Eric Mika. From his high school days at Lone Peak to his time at BYU and his professional career around the world, Eric's journey is one of determination, growth, and continuous improvement.

At BYU, Eric's impact was immediate, earning WCC All-Freshman Team honors. After serving a two-year mission in Italy, he returned to dominate, averaging 20.3 points and 9.2 rebounds per game in his sophomore season. His decision to leave BYU early for professional basketball led him on a journey across Europe and into the NBA G League.

Throughout this episode, Mike and Eric dive into the highs and lows of Eric's remarkable career, from his high school glory days to his experiences playing professionally in Italy, Germany, Serbia, and the United States. They also explore the profound impact of Eric's mission and time at BYU, which shaped his approach to basketball, personal growth, and life beyond the court.

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Get ready for an exciting episode of Beyond the Game as host Mike Lacey sits down with NFL long-snapping specialist and former BYU defensive end John Denney. Despite starting his college career at Ricks College, John's determination and versatility led him to BYU, where he developed his skills as both a defensive player and long snapper.

John's NFL journey began as an undrafted free agent, but his precision and consistency in long snapping caught the attention of the Miami Dolphins. His dedication and specialized skills led to an impressive 14-year career with the Dolphins, making him one of the longest-tenured players in team history.

As the Dolphins' reliable long snapper, John left an indelible mark on the NFL's special teams. His accuracy and dependability resulted in a streak of 224 consecutive games played, showcasing his durability and importance to the team.

Throughout this episode, Mike and John dive into the highs and lows of John's remarkable career, from his humble beginnings at BYU to his rise as one of the most respected long snappers in NFL history. They also explore the profound impact of John's time at BYU, which shaped his approach to football, perseverance, and life beyond the gridiron.

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Get ready for an incredible episode of Beyond the Game as host Mike Lacey sits down with legendary NFL coach and former BYU offensive lineman Andy Reid, along with his BYU teammate "The Masher". Despite starting his college career at a junior college, Andy's determination and passion for football led him to BYU, where he honed his skills and developed his deep understanding of the game.

Andy's coaching journey began at the collegiate level, including a stint at San Francisco State where he helped sell hot dogs to support the football program. His dedication and innovative approach to offense caught the attention of NFL teams, leading to a successful career that has spanned over three decades.

As the head coach of the Philadelphia Eagles and now the Kansas City Chiefs, Andy has left an indelible mark on the NFL. His strategic mind and ability to develop quarterbacks have resulted in numerous playoff appearances and, most recently, three Super Bowl victories - one as an assistant coach with the Green Bay Packers and two as head coach of the Kansas City Chiefs.

Throughout this episode, Mike, Andy, and "The Masher" dive into the highs and lows of Andy's remarkable career, from his humble beginnings at BYU to his rise to becoming one of the most respected coaches in NFL history. They also explore the profound impact of Andy's time at BYU, which shaped his approach to football, leadership, and life beyond the gridiron.

Gain insight into how Andy's experiences as a player and coach have molded him into the mentor he is today, inspiring and guiding not just athletes, but fostering unity and mutual respect within diverse NFL locker rooms. Learn about his offensive philosophy, his approach to play-calling, and how he balances aggression with strategy on the field.

Join host Mike Lacey for part two of "Beyond the Game," showcasing Danny Frazier. As a testament to resilience, Danny Frazier's story is one of overcoming adversity and achieving success beyond the sports field.

Danny Frazier, a former two-sport BYU athlete and one of the first African-American athletes at the university, saw his promising NFL career cut short by a broken neck in 1979. Despite this setback, he pivoted to a successful law career in Utah, founding the Frazier Law Firm specializing in criminal defense. Encouraging his son, Jameson Frazier, to pursue his passions, Danny exemplifies resilience and determination, turning adversity into opportunity.

Join us as Mike and Lee dive deep into the exciting narrative of Danny Frazier's remarkable life.

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Catch Mike Lacey on this awesome episode of "Beyond the Game" as he chats about the life of Fred Roberts!

Playing 119 games for BYU, Fred became an integral part of the team during a basketball renaissance era alongside legends like Danny Ainge and Greg Kite. Known for his impeccable shooting and deft touch, Fred left an indelible mark on BYU's basketball legacy. Finishing as the second leading scorer in school history behind Danny Ainge, Fred embarked on a professional career that took him across various teams in the NBA.

Fred's NBA journey reached new heights when he joined the Utah Jazz in 1984, where he played alongside notable players like Karl Malone. Fred's talent then caught the attention of the Boston Celtics, where he signed a two-year deal in September 1986, sharing the court with basketball legends like Larry Bird, Kevin McHale, and Robert Parish. His contributions to the Celtics further solidified his reputation as a skilled and versatile player.

Join Mike and Fred as they explore Fred's dynamic career, from his early days dominating the courts to his journey through the NBA. Discover how Fred's experiences on the hardwood shaped him into the teacher he is today, inspiring the next generation both on and off the basketball court.

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Catch Mike Lacey on this awesome episode of "Beyond the Game" as he chats about the life and work of Kade Carroll!

Currently serving as a Creative Content Specialist for BYU Athletics, Kade is a seasoned professional photographer and videographer dedicated to capturing pivotal moments.

Kade's journey into the world of photography and videography took flight during his college years at Westpoint while covering sports media. Kade is now deeply committed to producing top-notch content, capturing high-quality photographs, and drawing emotion with his captures.

Join Mike and Kade as they explore Kade's dynamic career, from his early fascination with cameras to his significant contributions to BYU Athletics.

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Join host Mike Lacey in this captivating episode of "Beyond the Game" as he dives into the extraordinary life of Tom Holmoe. Born in La Crescenta, California, Tom embarked on a remarkable journey, starting as a Cougar defensive back at BYU to his NFL career with the San Francisco 49ers, which solidified his place in football history. From player to coach to Director of Athletics at BYU, Tom's impact on the sport is unparalleled.

Join Mike and Tom as they discuss Tom's extensive career, from his tenure as Director of Athletics at BYU overseeing 21 sports and numerous championships to his Super Bowl success in the NFL with the San Francisco 49ers, coaching roles, academic achievements, and his profound personal journey, including his conversion to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

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Join host Mike Lacey for an exciting two-part episode of "Beyond the Game," showcasing Danny Frazier. As a testament to resilience, Danny Frazier's story is one of overcoming adversity and achieving success beyond the sports field.

Danny Frazier, a former two-sport BYU athlete and one of the first African-American athletes at the university, saw his promising NFL career cut short by a broken neck in 1979. Despite this setback, he pivoted to a successful law career in Utah, founding the Frazier Law Firm specializing in criminal defense. Encouraging his son, Jameson Frazier, to pursue his passions, Danny exemplifies resilience and determination, turning adversity into opportunity.

Join us as Mike and Lee dive deep into the exciting narrative of Danny Frazier's remarkable life.

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Join host Mike Lacey and his wife Diana Lacey in this special episode of "Beyond the Game" featuring Patti Edwards. As the wife of coaching legend LaVell Edwards, Patti Edwards emerged as one of the most influential figures in football spouse circles.

Hailing from Wyoming, Patti wholeheartedly embraced her role as a coach's wife, fostering camaraderie and fellowship among football spouses by founding the American Football Coaches Wives Association. Beyond her integral role in football, Patti pursued personal growth, earning a college degree at 63 and contributing to various outlets such as writing. Patti's cherished memories revolve around the genuine relationships she forged within the football community.

Join us as Mike, Diana, and Patti delve into the captivating story of Patti Edwards' extraordinary life.

Join host Mike Lacey in this captivating episode of "Beyond the Game" featuring Lee Johnson. Known as 'Thunderfoot' for his exceptional punting power, Lee Johnson's legacy in American football is remarkable.

Starting in Conroe, Texas, Lee made his mark first at McCullough High School and then at Brigham Young University, where he was a key member of the 1984 National Championship team and earned All-American honors. His NFL career started by being drafted by the Houston Oilers in 1985, spanned 18 seasons across various teams, showcasing his enduring talent and resilience.